Wiki143:Suspected sock puppets/Hkelkar

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User:Hkelkar

Suspected sockpuppeteer

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Suspected sockpuppets

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Report submission by

Itsmejudith 20:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC) Itsmejudith 14:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC) 194.176.201.24 (talk) 22:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Evidence

Evidence for Yitzhak Hudas as a sockpuppet, [1] [2] The first of these appeared minutes after I had requested semi-protection of the page, because of edits I believe were also by Hkelkar as an IP. Hkelkar is a very prolific sockpuppeteer. He has scarcely spent a day of WP since his ban. He is hoping we will run out of energy in identifying his puppets, or that we will not be believed. Yitzhak Hudas, a new account, has accused me of "whitewashing" on the Dalit Voice article, just as Hkelkar did before. He is now going on to reinstate former edits of Hkelkar's.

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Compare with edit made by banned user User:Hkelkar

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This editor is editing at least two of the pages that the banned user Hkelkar edited, with similar patterns. In particular, POV-pushing in a direction favourable to Hindutva (the article subjects are related to an opposite political viewpoint), incivility and wild accusations of antisemitism.

Edit summaries include the following:

• "rm non-notable, not a historian but a antisemitic polemicist (Alan Hart (writer)"

Although the removal was correct the summary may be in violation of WP:BLP. I left a message on his talk page to that effect.

• "apart from a blurb by anti-Israel hrw, nobody else makes this absurd claim"

• "er, you wouldn't list stormfront.org as a "caucasian emancipation organization", would you? Very subtle!" (this was in response to wording that clarified that positions held belonged only to the article's subject)

Hkelkar has already been operating sockpuppets and had his ban extended. This may be another such case.

Comments

I looked at the evidence. Given the amount of time that Hkelkar officially has been gone (last edit in December 2006), and the fact that the newer user has fewer than 50 edits, I see insufficient evidence to draw any conclusion. The only way to demonstrate a connection would be to show that other sockpuppets of Hkelkar have also edited the same article with the same POV. Do you have such evidence? Shalom ^Hello 22:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

• There are 20 IPs and 3 user names listed as suspected sockpuppets of Hkelkar since his ban. His suspected sockpuppet User:Sumaharran made his sole edit on 9th July at 08.22 UTC to revert an edit by User:Hornplease on Indian nationalism, which itself was a reversion of one of Hkelkar’s IPs. Nahartasanhedrin turns up at 16.26 UTC on 9th of July to revert an edit by Hornplease on the article Slavery and religion. On 11th July User: Zuhunir comes on the scene to revert an edit by Hornplease, which was a reversion of an edit by an IP that Hornplease clearly suspected of being a sockpuppet of Hkelkar. The IP User: 70.112.77.235 , blocked by Dmcdevit as a sockpuppet of Hkelkar, also made several reverts of edits by Hornplease.

• The IP User:128.83.131.124, banned as a suspected sockpuppet of Hkelkar, made the edit summary “all backwards are not Dalits. Devdasis were backwards. HRW is crap”, a similar attack on HRW in an edit summary to one I listed above for Nahartasanhedrin. The IP was banned on 11th July by User:Aksi great.

• Hkelkar was clearly engaged in much sockpuppetry at the beginning of this month and there is much that suggests that this is one of his creations. He appears to have been wikistalking Hornplease. Itsmejudith 07:21, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Conclusions

This is clearly someone's alternate account; it jumped in to follow User:Hornplease and revert his/her edits, and uses veteran edit summaries. I think it's likely to be Hkelkar, but regardless of whose it is, it's an alternate account of an established editor jumping into an active controversy and editing disruptively, so I've blocked it indefinitely. MastCell ^Talk 18:15, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

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