Wiki143:Suspected sock puppets/Fadulj

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User:Fadulj

The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.
Suspected sock puppeteer

Fadulj (talk+ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · CheckUser)

Suspected sock puppets

122.3.*.* is a dialup ISP in .ph.



Report submission by

-Freqsh0 (talk) 19:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Evidence

Note: This report is still somewhat of a work in progress. There is a lot to dig through and I'm spending way too long on this :)

It appears I've come across a massive campaign of sockpuppets, possibly with some meatpuppets, participating in a shameless, widespread self promotion campaign on wikipedia. There are several accounts and articles involved, and it's taken me quite some time to gather these notes, so please excuse if I haven't properly organized/formatted some things. I tried to make it as coherent as possible, let me know if something should be formatted differently. Also, I may have missed a few evidence links for some of the puppets, point out any that need further justification.

These accounts have all been associated with the promotion of an individual named Jose A Fadul, including creation of the original article, inserting references to this article throughout wikipedia, and referencing the individual, his work, or his personal websites. When one of these edits are challenged, another account always comes to the rescue. The editing patterns strongly indicate teamwork and knowledge of when edits are being made. I first became aware of this when trying to maintain the List of child prodigies article, when it appeared several users with a strange level of interest began revert warring against me, while I was genuinely trying to invite discussion on the articles talk page, which went ignored. When a bunch of redlink accounts posted on my talk page telling me I am making poor editing decisions, I decided to fully investigate. It should be noted that the user that created the Jose Fadul article is actually named User:Fadulj.

  • A) User:CosmicAnthropologist appears to be a single use account only to revert a few of my edits that the others were also reverting, and back the others up. See his contribs.
  • E) User:MCLeander claims he was Jose Fadul's teacher and knew Jose Fadul as a child. 1, 2,
  • T) A user discusses the possible [WP:COI] based on the suspicious creator username/article name for Jose Fadul. Fadulj says he is unrelated and the name is coincidence. 1
  • U) Contrary to User:Fadulj claiming that he is unrelated, he uploads an image created by Jose Fadul, seen on his gallery here 1, and says "I, Jose A Fadul created..." it. - 2.
  • I didn't upload this artwork, though it is mine! Someone else keyed in "I, Jose A Fadul created ... " and not me! (Could it be that someone hacked my password or something?)
  • AC) Milagros D. Ibe is tagged speedy delete, User:Fadulj responds saying that she is notable in the phillipines - 1. Also note that Jose Fadul has a painting of her on his personal site 2.
  • AH) User:Fadulj uploads an image of Jose Fadul, pretending he is not him. He still names the image Fadulj.jpg however. He claims he took it from Jose Fadul's website and cropped it. 1
  • AP) User:MCLeander added external link to a painting by Jose Fadul to the Cockfight article. 1
  • AQ) Storefront page for Jose Fadul's lulu books includes his contact info. His email address is listed as fadulj@dls-csb.edu.ph, same username as User:Fadulj who claims to not be him. http://stores.lu lu.com/fadulj (remove space - url is blacklisted for spam).
  • AS) User:fadulj avoids a WP:COI accusation by saying he is an American from San Diego, of Lebanese descent, vacationing in the Philippines. 1. While vacationing he claims to have found a namesake and created an article. This is obviously a very poor lie - all of his contribs are either specific to Jose Fadul, inserting references to Jose Fadul, or specific to Filipino culture. Some examples to show that he is obviously Filipino, besides his whole contrib history, are 2, 3, 4, 5
  • AU) 5 of them try to team up on my talk page to speak out against my removal of Jose Fadul from List of child prodigies. 1 - Also note that 3 of them make the same mistake of forgetting to put a space between the last period and their signature.

Known external URLs to check for spam:

Emails:

  • fadulj@dls-csb.edu.ph
  • jose_fdl@yahoo.com

Other things possibly of interest:

  1. 12:16:30, Fri Mar 14, 2008 en:user:PFlores3 <-> lulu.com (0%/0%/0% - Added link: www.lulu.com/content/913264 (Monitored rule: \blulu\.com - reason for monitoring \blulu\.com: Automonitor: reported to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam (diff)) - en:Jose_Fadul - diff - COIBot UserReport - en:Special:Contributions/PFlores3.
  1. 19:17:21, Sat Mar 01, 2008 en:user:Melayts <-> lulu.com (0%/0%/0% - Added link: www.lulu.com/content/850247 (Monitored rule: \blulu\.com - reason for monitoring \blulu\.com: Automonitor: reported to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam (diff)) - en:Jose_Fadul - diff - COIBot UserReport - en:Special:Contributions/Melayts.
  1. 2008-03-14 08:16:30: User PFlores3 (talk - contribs; 14) to Jose Fadul (diff) - Link: www.lulu.com/content/913264.
  1. 2008-03-01 14:17:09: User Melayts (talk - contribs; 17) to Jose Fadul (diff) - Link: www.lulu.com/content/850247.
  1. 11:51:59, Wed Mar 19, 2008 - user:Fadulj - user talk (contribs) on page Jose Fadul (diff) -> calculated overlap Fadulj <-> Jose Fadul (U->P: 83.33% - P->U 66.66% -> ratio 55.5%)
  1. 12:16:30, Fri Mar 14, 2008 - user:PFlores3 - user talk (contribs) on page Jose Fadul (diff) -> Added link: www.lulu.com/content/913264 (Monitored rule: \blulu\.com - reason for monitoring \blulu\.com: Automonitor: reported to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam (diff) (U->L: 0% - L->U 0% -> ratio 0%). Link: lulu.com: Linksearch en - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - Meta: SRB-XWiki - COIBot-XWiki - Eagle's spam report search • Interwiki link search, big: 20 - 57 • Linkwatcher: search • Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • Veinor pages • meta • Yahoo: backlinks • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.org • DomainsDB.net • Alexa • OnSameHost.com • WhosOnMyServer.com .
  1. 19:17:21, Sat Mar 01, 2008 - user:Melayts - user talk (contribs) on page Jose Fadul (diff) -> Added link: www.lulu.com/content/850247 (Monitored rule: \blulu\.com - reason for monitoring \blulu\.com: Automonitor: reported to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam (diff) (U->L: 0% - L->U 0% -> ratio 0%). Link: lulu.com: Linksearch en - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - Meta: SRB-XWiki - COIBot-XWiki - Eagle's spam report search • Interwiki link search, big: 20 - 57 • Linkwatcher: search • Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • Veinor pages • meta • Yahoo: backlinks • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.org • DomainsDB.net • Alexa • OnSameHost.com • WhosOnMyServer.com .
  1. 11:31:40, Wed Mar 26, 2008 - user:Fadulj - user talk (contribs) on page Jose Fadul (diff) -> calculated overlap Fadulj <-> Jose Fadul (U->P: 83.33% - P->U 66.66% -> ratio 55.5%)
  1. 11:29:38, Wed Mar 26, 2008 - user:Fadulj - user talk (contribs) on page Jose Fadul (diff) -> calculated overlap Fadulj <-> Jose Fadul (U->P: 83.33% - P->U 66.66% -> ratio 55.5%)
Comments

I am Hunting Tarsier. I am a Filipino, a civil engineer by profession. I am not a sockpuppet of Dr.Jose Fadul although we happened to have graduated in the same high school and university. HuntingTarsier (talk) 03:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

This is User: "Cosmic Anthropologist" and I am not a sock puppet of Jose Fadul either. I am using one of the computer terminals of College of Saint Benilde, that is why I may be registering the same IP address as the other Wikipedia users and editors. I am responding to the serious accusation of sock puppetry. CosmicAnthropologist (talk) 03:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


This is User:FadulJoseA who is the same Jose Fadul in the Wikipedia article. I am not User:Fadulj who mentioned that he is an American of Lebanese descent and happened to have the same name as I have, down to the middle initial. (My middle name is "Arabe", he did not mention his.) User:Fadulj mentioned that he was the one who created the article about myself which is fairly accurate, in fairness to him and the rest. I have not touched that article for obvious reasons. But now, since it has led to a commotion and serious suspicion of sockpuppeteering I would like to have it deleted. To all those who seem to be "a little obsessed with me" including my former schoolmates and students and whom I remember to be my teacher some thirty years ago, please do not undelete it. FadulJoseA (talk) 04:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

  • I believe points U, AF, AH, AS, and AT prove otherwise. Aside from these specific points, the fact that you both work on all of the same articles around the same time, and seem to have the same depth of knowledge on yourself, proves otherwise. Furthermore, you are seen promoting yourself, or editing articles that promote you, with this User:FadulJoseA account in several examples listed above. It's also interesting you knew he is an american of lebanese descent, when his statement to that only appears on other users talk pages, and never on an article you have edited. It is also strange that someone supposedly knowing all details about you, extremely obsessed with you, edits many articles with you yet you have never written on each other's talk pages. -Freqsh0 (talk) 14:35, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
  • I don't own a computer. I have been using the computers in school, and in the nearby Cafe for internet access. I'm sorry if you have the impression that I am a sockpuppet. I am not. Neither would I employ one. Some people are just uncontrollable, and please believe me, I'm trying to contain the matter. FadulJoseA (talk) 04:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


I apologize for all the troubles that I may have caused Dr.Fadul and the rest. I am not a sock puppet of Dr.Fadul. And I don't think he is a sock puppeteer not engage in sock puppetry. Joe, I'm so sorry. I respect your decision but rest assured that you'll always be remembered by me and by all those whose hearts you have touched and inspired.MCLeander (talk) 00:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

  • I don't buy this charade either, though even that would be a longstanding, blatant abuse of wikipedia. It's guaranteed that at least some of you are sockpuppets, but I have more fairly compelling evidence that all of you are, which I'll post later on when I get time. In the mean time, I suggest you stop using your puppet army to try and create the illusion of consensus against other editors who, unlike yourself, are attempting to abide by wikipedia standards and maintain articles, and stop sneaking references to Jose Fadul and his websites in other articles. -Freqsh0 (talk) 03:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm Pedro Flores III. I was Fadul's classmate and much later, one of his students. That doesn't make me a sockpuppet, does it?PFlores3 (talk) 04:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

  • You are not allowed to modify this report. Do not remove your name from the list of suspects. You may present your defense here in the comment section. When this report is complete, the evidence, and your defense, will be reviewed by other editors and administrators. If your actions are free of misconduct, you have nothing to worry about. If it is found that your usage is abuse, the administrator will take the appropriate action. -Freqsh0 (talk)
  • The 'evidences' presented herein are no multum sed multa ("not much, but many") and can be all coincidences. Some (or many) innocent people can, and are getting hurt. Dr. Fadul is a very decent person. PFlores3 (talk) 01:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm not one of the sock puppets, if indeed there are! Please be gentle with a "tenderfoot". JDGloria (talk) 23:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
  • You are not allowed to modify this report. Do not remove your name from the list of suspects. You may present your defense here in the comment section. When this report is complete, the evidence, and your defense, will be reviewed by other editors and administrators. If your actions are free of misconduct, you have nothing to worry about. If it is found that your usage is abuse, the administrator will take the appropriate action. -Freqsh0 (talk) 08:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I am not a sock puppets of User:Fadulj cuz this IP/computer is in the Philippines and not in other countries. To the User who suspect that I am a sockpuppet: "What the hell! This IP address is used by several people. Investigate first before accussed! You are a big shame in this site" --202.57.48.69 (talk) 05:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Bunsoy here. !!@!@!@$#@$#@##$^$^$#$#$#$%^*(&&*%^%%!! Grrr! I deny being a sockpuppet! --BunsoyBunsoy (talk) 03:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC).

This is Melayts. Independent of the others, I likewise deny being a sockpuppet. (talk)119.111.86.75 (talk) 06:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


Conclusions
Template:User-multi
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are all File:Symbol confirmed.svg Confirmed to be the same user.
(Not the same user, but all used the same computers in the DLS-CSB campus!FadulJoseA (talk) 16:59, 28 December 2008 (UTC))
Script error: No such module "user".
Script error: No such module "user".
are File:Time2wait.svg Stale, but behaviorally consistent.

In addition, all IPs are related to the sock farm but have legitimate users. If they are blocked, make sure they are anon-only to avoid needless collateral damage. — Coren (talk) 02:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Sockmaster blocked for 3 months for abuse of alternate accounts, and named sock accounts indefinitely. I have left the ip accounts alone, as they are from an educational facility and per CU edit other articles. As the target article may be a hoax, and therefore a candidate for deletion, it may be that the subject need not even be semi-protected - which would be the other way of stopping this disruption. LessHeard vanU (talk) 14:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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