Wiki143:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-05-01 Glock 19

Request Information

Who are the involved parties?

About 15 different people. See Talk page at the article.

What's going on?

Recently, the Virginia Tech massacre was in the news. The shooter in Virginia used two guns, according to police, a Glock 19 and a Walther P22. Some editors wanted to place a link on the Glock 19 and Walter P22 to the Virginia Tech massacre article; other editors disagreed, believing that such a link is superfulous and contrary to their notion of what an encyclopedia is.

What would you like to change about that?

I would like disinterested third parties to take this under consideration. The discussion (which has been pretty civil) has not been able to resolve this question. Thank you in advance for looking into this.

Mediator response

Please feel free to post the entire list of people in the Involved Parties section, even if it has a lot of people. Thank you! Diez2 16:52, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

See here for further discussion.

Administrative notes

This situation has been resolved for both the Glock 19 and the Walther P22 articles by community decision. A mediation request is simply an "end around" by editors to make a WP:POINT. I should note that Griot is one of those people who is against the community consensus on this article: a decision of 15 editors against inclusion to 6 for inclusion is a clear consensus....Griot's request is an attempt to avoid abiding by consensus.⇒ SWATJester ^{Denny Crane.} 18:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

• Cases closed then? - HammerHeadHuman ^(talk)(work) 18:32, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

On the contrary, this was not resolved for either the Glock 19 or Walther P22 articles. And this mediation request was made in good faith, not as an "end around." Moreover, there are many besides me in favor of inclusion. Let's leave this to a mediator, shall we, and not use this space to attack others. Griot 20:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of intent, it ACTS as an end around. And actually, it was perfectly well resolved at the Glock 19 article, and the weight of precedent and policy supports its resolution on the Walther P22 article. See the other case for example. Note, if this is going to stay here for any length of time, these need to be merged. ⇒ SWATJester ^{Denny Crane.} 21:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

• • I'm not M.C. that's for them to decide. Just leaving a note. ⇒ SWATJester ^{Denny Crane.} 19:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

This appears to be closed at this point. ⇒ SWATJester ^{Denny Crane.} 16:49, 6 May 2007 (UTC)