Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Xplicit

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. (No-one here even managed to cite a song that was verifiably his.) Grandmasterka 06:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Xplicit

This unsourced article fails WP:MUSIC. A web search reveals plenty of results, but none I reviewed appeared to apply to this rapper. Indeed, it appears that there is another rapper by the same name that has released albums. This is not that rapper because this guy hails from Compton whereas that guy is from the midwest. Erechtheus 00:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Seems to be autobiography, and this person is also insignificant anyway. Delete. AQu01rius (User | Talk | Websites)  00:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia also not a crystal ball. GrahameS 03:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Grahame. —Khoikhoi 06:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep see article Brenda's got a baby refer to this rapper. seems to be quit famous to some degree--Bonafide.hustla 06:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Inserting an unverified cross-reference into an existing article does nothing to verify or establish the notability of an unrelated subject. Deizio talk 22:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep I have seen some geniuine articles on him and also he was featured on the sources' "unsigned hype" at one stage. Also this "rapper who shares the same name" IS him, he was originally from the middle-east but moved to compton later on in life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebo Thug (talk • contribs)
• Keep He is a rapper, I have heard thugz life on the radio. I also found lyrics somewhere, also please be awear he is an UNDEGROUND rapper alot of underground rappers arent well known, even talib kweli's page was going to be deleted at one stage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Coppa (talk • contribs) , user's first and only edit. Deizio talk 08:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• This discussion is closed he is a real rapper info found here on a plain google search. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lebo Thug (talk • contribs) .
  • Um, what? No, it's not. And what search? Zetawoof^(ζ) 07:51, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, fails WP:MUSIC, hallmarks of bedroom musician vanity article. Recommend the 3 guys above get to grips with WP standards... Deizio talk 08:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:MUSIC. Eusebeus 09:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per hoax. I was also thinking to nominate it but sy was faster. BTW his "famous" song "Thugz Life" is listed once in allmusic.com, and guess what it's not his entry but someone else's. Lajbi ^{Holla @ me} 10:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

  Important Note! I also nominated Belly (rapper) for deletion here. The only link is from Xplicit. Lajbi ^{Holla @ me} 11:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, hoax. yandman 14:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep. Barely enough notoriety to warrant an article. Barely. Jcam 15:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:V. I really don't understand the number of "Keep" opinions here when this article so clearly fails the non-negotiable requirements of WP:Verifiability, which states: "If an article topic has no reputable, reliable, third-party sources, Wikipedia should not have an article on that topic." --Satori Son 16:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep He is at the very least mildy famous, if not better. Google lists quite a bit for him. If he has a strong fan base. There are people that will want to look him up. What you should do is ask the user to get some more information to add to his page. Be helpful, do not constantly try to tear people down on here. Some of you SUPER USERS are just plain mean people that have nothing better to do with your time. Wiki should step in tell you to back off. Because they are the ones in the end that will be losing potiential end users. Be nice people!! Harthansen 10:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment - Calm down. Check Wikipedia:Notability. And yes fame could means a place here in other words if not famous (hasn't charted for example), then throw it out. He can be put back anytime he reaches some verifyable success. Want editors to expand it? Do it yourself. In this very case the expand-tag won't work, no matter if we waited for months. And I agree be nice with us...Lajbi ^{Holla @ me} 22:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. - "Thugz Life" didn't chart #12 in the US because billboard.com doesn't even know about that. Maybe you should inform them... Lajbi ^{Holla @ me}

I think your inexperience with Wikipedia standards and practices is obvious. I notice you haven't offered any verification of your claim that he is "mildly famous", and as your account appears to have been created to save the article about unknown gay porn director Conor j murphy you might be better putting your time and effort into that. Wait until you've seen the multitude of rubbish that flows through AfD and you'll realize it's not all bunnies and kittens around here. Deizio talk 22:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment - It is not my first day as a user here! I have had the user ID for sometime. I don't know how to check, when I signed up, but I'm sure you do. So check. This is my first time submitting an article. I am working on the article, thanks for asking. I thank the user who constructivly pointed me in the right direction on how to fix the article. If he is logging with the same IP fraudentally then delete it. If the author of Xplicit doesn't want to take the time to correct his own article then delete it. All I am saying is that when someone is new here and just getting used to your rules then offer him a a bit of kindness. Instead of the elitest attitude that I was offered. Harthansen 9:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

• First edit from this account was made 9 October 2006 at 11:48 UTC. You can check the contribution record here. Sorry if you disagree with the attitude of some of the other users here, but I can assure you it stems from knowledge of established content policies and standards. You'll get a better feel for these as you explore Wikipedia. I'm more than happy to help you out if you have any questions, drop a note on my talk page if there's anything I can do. Deizio talk 13:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment - Thank you Delzio that is very nice. I only meant that I had the user name for at least 6 months. I mentioned it was my first time submitting an article. Harthansen 20:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

• keep - per Harthansen, this person seems notable in his field and that is what matters. --mathewguiver 21:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment - per Harthansen. Lajbi ^{Holla @ me}

• Delete per WP:MUSIC. Almost all contributions were made either by Lebo Thug or an ip address - no one else cares about it. . Ultra-Loser ^{Talk | BT sites} 02:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Allmusic.com lists a rapper called Xplicit but not this guy see [1]. No Google News results for any rappers called Xplicit see [2]. A Google News archive search fails to come up with anything verifying this rapper. No reliable sources cited in the article. Capitalistroadster 02:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
  • comment - I came across the same link for another rapper called Xplicit, and actually his album was the only one I could find any information on. Also, Disposable Arts and A Long Hot Summer have Xplicit listed as a producer but I am not sure if that is referring to the rapper Xplicit mentioned at allmusic or the one this article is based off of. --mathewguiver 16:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, fails WP:BAND, as explained variously above. Sandstein 08:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as one of the above posters stated Xplicit is indeed the producer of many mixtapes and "disposable arts" and "a long hot summer" and also "One class" was produced by him (album from large professor) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.187.151 (talk • contribs)
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.