Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Undisclosed location

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was Delete --Allen3 ^talk July 4, 2005 17:39 (UTC)

Undisclosed location

Tagged for a speedy but not a candidate. Unsure of whether this term is notable enough for inclusion, or if the content of the article is true. No vote. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Delete, dicdef. I'd agree that this is not a speedy, though. Radiant_>|< 10:55, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, encyclopedic. What was the undisclosed location anyway? Kappa 12:01, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • If we knew that it wouldn't be "undisclosed". Sjakkalle (Check!) 12:15, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, dic def. --nixie 12:36, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• This article as written is rubbish. "undisclosed location" is a widespread and common expression for, unsurprisingly, a location that is undisclosed. It has been around for years, and was not (as this article implies) coined to describe the situation of Dick Cheney. (A conference was held at an undisclosed location in 1996, for example, 5 years before Dick Cheney ever was. In Demjanjuk v. Meese, 784 F. 2d 1114 (CADC 1986) a prisoner was held at an undisclosed location. Li Wenming was held at an undisclosed location in 1994.) The fact that Dick Cheney was held in an undisclosed location is, of course, already mentioned in his own article. I cannot see anything beyond the tautology "an undisclosed location is a location that is undisclosed" for this article, given that that is the only thing that can be known about such locations. Delete. Uncle G 13:14, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)
  • I think the article is about "undisclosed location" as a catch phrase, and not as an expression. Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:18, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as per Uncle G. — P Ingerson (talk) 13:23, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Unencyclopedic. I've heard the undisclosed location was Mandalay Bay. Pburka 14:59, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: the term "undisclosed location" has been widely parodied and has, in this country, recently become synonymous with Cheney. The Onion even did an article centered on it. While I agree with some of Uncle G's comments, I think much of this can be salvaged and turned into a decent article. No vote yet, but leanign towards keep. Also, I thought I reclled hearing on some news report that his undisclosed location was revealed and was an air force base somewhere (I forget which one). -R. fiend 15:07, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, nonsense, not encyclopedic. RickK 20:52, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete not encyclopedic. JamesBurns 06:37, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• I've added to the article a bit, including mentioning what the undisclosed location was reported to have been (though I haven't confirmed this 100%). It could use more of an opening (certainly other exmaples could be used, the Witness Protection Program perhaps?), but I'm going to go ahead and give an official keep and expand vote now. -R. fiend 20:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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