Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Persecution of Muslims

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was Keep. Scimitar 16:42, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Persecution of Muslims

• Delete The purpose of this Islamist article is to brainwash people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.203.202.156 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 15 Jun 2005

Nominator forgot to add to the VfD log; adding to today's log. --cesarb 22:54, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Delete Factually inaccurate propaganda. Deeptrivia 23:03, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep If there are clearly persecution of other religion articles why shouldn't there be any for Muslims. It is unfair not to include one about Muslims. --Anonymous editor 00:50, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep and clean up. If this article were to be deleted we would introduce a systematic bias unless we also deleted Persecution of the Jews and Persecution of Christians as well. Andreww 02:08, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep — Why not, we've got similar articles for Jews and Christians. We could probably write a similar article for almost every other religious group, then categorize them under "pot-kettle-black". — RJH 02:40, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Rewrite As per previous vote, we have pages for other religions, I do however feel that the page could use a rewrite to make it conform to NPOV and styling standards.

• Keep and Cleanup. Notable religions merit articles on persecutions against them; sadly (or fortunately, I guess, depending on POV), every notable religion has some history of serious persecution. Xoloz 04:41, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep and Cleanup: Since other articles like Persecution of the Jews and Persecution of Christians are here, no reason to delete this. A little rewrite may be required though. --Ragib 06:17, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Just because something needs work is not a reason to delete it. It's a valid topic. --Fastfission 06:43, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, obviously. Part of a series. - Mustafaa 19:12, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• STRONG DELETE Highly POV resulting in propoganda with it being too strong POV and factually inaccurate to allow rewrite. For example, it discusses "Muslim persecution in Spain" without even mentioning the Muslim invasion of Spain or the long campaign of warfare the Muslims used to conquer and convert the pennisula. An armed response to an invasion is not persecution! It cannot be logically equalled to say, the Holocaust were a peaceful ethnic minority were made scapegoats and killed.Similarly, "Muslim persecution during the Crusades" - The Crusades were an armed response to the Muslim persecution of Christian pilgrims. While the Crusaders slaughtering Muslims in Jerusalem was wrong, an action like that is more like total warfare, not persecution. That's like saying the massive bombing of Dresden, Germany in WWII, was persecution? Barneygumble 15:42, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • German scholars do sometimes suggest that Dresden was unnecessarily brutal. Though I disagree, a discussion of the issue, in NPOV form, would be valuable and thoroughly encyclopedic, IMO. POV problems with the article are not a real for deletion, only cleanup. Xoloz 06:59, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Atlant 15:49, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep POV content is a reason to edit, not VfD. Saswann 16:36, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Sensitive topics should have the best and widest information available about them. Then people can make a decision for themselves. —Seselwa 21:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. "Persecution" is a valid scholarly topic since about the 1970s or early 80s theres been a lot of research done on it and much available material to draw from (none of which is cited here). Stbalbach 22:45, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete POV vandalism magnet. JamesBurns 08:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Islamist playground. This article is going to turn into an unmaintainable POV fest. Klonimus 04:46, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Delete Factually incorrect. Confuses persecution of muslims with conflict with muslims, war with muslims, defence against muslim invasions, etc.
  • Unsigned comment by 70.105.188.134. Xoloz 06:55, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be placed on a related article talk page, if one exists; in an undeletion request, if it does not; or below this section.