Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Peritrope

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The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 04:34, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

Peritrope

Google calls BS; 10 hits for the word, and they don't all seem to be related. I think it's a mess of an article on an idiocyncratic non-topic - as the deletion rules so neatly put it. humblefool® 04:07, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Weak Keep. I got 38 unique hits using google [1], and they all seemed to be about the same the concept mentioned in the article. None of the dictionaries I consulted knew the word, but if it does in fact exist, then we should have an article on it. Dave the Red (talk) 08:05, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - it was good enough for Plato, it's good enough for me. [2] FreplySpang (talk) 12:19, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Transwiki - seems to be a definition, would need to be expanded to be encyclopedic.Gorrister 19:08, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, it was good enough for Plato. Kappa 21:08, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Transwiki dicdefs of idiosyncratic topics that were good enough for Plato but today aren't (except by Barbara H. Smith, Carl Page, and Myles Burnyeat) deemed relevant to the possibility of any totalized overcoming or transcendence in general. Barno 23:40, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Great, we can't cover Plato now? Kappa 00:05, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Sorry, Kappa, I was parodying your commonly used voting style and the way the article was written. Now that I see Plato used this significantly and Theosophists aren't the only ones who use it these days, I can't deny Plato what we give Ashlee Simpson. Barno 00:31, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• I checked Wiktionary; they don't have this word. But I Googled without excluding Wikipedia, so I could compare possible derivative sites that aren't literal mirrors but use WP as their basis. Most of the top-ranked sites (first couple of pages) are legitimate academia, and not just copycat sites replicating a wikihoax or blog postings retelling an urban legend or Everything2 fluff. The concept is discussed in English as a concept by academics-of-philosophy without obvious local-ness. I doubt more than a thousand people worldwide knew the word or idea in any year for three millennia until maybe the last few decades. Did Oxford or Yale students learn this if they weren't philosophy majors? Based on quality (not quantity) of Google results, I'm changing my vote to Keep. Barno 00:25, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Keep --AYArktos 01:18, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC) (the word is in the Oxford English Dictionary (Compact Edition 1971))

• • But it's not in the Official Scrabble Players Dictionary! (Admittedly, that's because the OSPD only contains words of two to eight letters.) Barno 01:29, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Seems to be important concept in Platonic philosophy. Capitalistroadster 10:08, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Weak Delete --I wrote the article, and I vote that it be deleted on the grounds that it is self-refuting: if 'peritrope' were a real thing, more people would have written about it already. Therefore, the writing of the article only serves to demonstrate that the topic needed to be written about. But this is to say that the article should never have been written, because 'peritrope' is far too idiosyncratic a 'non-topic' to ever be written about (if it wasn't, more people would have written about it, and there would have been no need for an article). In short: the article's very existence demonstrates a need for itself, which in turn can only be generated by the obscurity of the topic (its alienated and 'idiosyncratic non-entity' as humblefool put it).
• Keep, admittedly there is not much scope for expansion, however it is more than a dic def., correctly categorised it could be useful for people interested in philosophy.--nixie 03:42, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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