Wiki143:Articles for deletion/P-P-P-Powerbook (second nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. --Fang Aili ^說嗎? 05:15, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

P-P-P-Powerbook (second nomination)

Fancruft. An obscure event that has no encyclopedic reference other than to members of SomethingAwful's forums. RabinicLawyer 22:35, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

See previous nomination that resulted in No consensus. Kotepho 22:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Keep

• Keep A piece of history. (what's an encyclopedia for?) Ovidiugm 22:31, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Why delete this? It's accurate and entertaining. It's Wikipedia, how is there cruft? it's not like one page somewhere somehow ruins the whole encyclopedia. Honestly...

KEEP - Informative and funny, relief for those scammed

• Keep It's notable. ktheory 15:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep notable internet memes. Certainly grew beyond SA events. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 23:29, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per badlydrawnjeff. --waffle iron ^talk 23:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - googling "P-P-P-Powerbook" shows that this has spread well beyond Something Awful. This is a notable meme. Colonel Tom 00:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Kuralyov 00:29, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep This is one of the less notable Internet memes, but it does seem to have popularity, and the article is written rather well. Danny Lilithborne 02:11, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Col_tom. Note that this also received coverage on Slashdot. Gail Wynand 04:03, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep per this editorial from Smart Computing magazine. Kotepho 04:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Donkay ote 04:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or create a page of SA-spawned internet fads/memes. This one reached well beyond the SA forums, as I heard about it not long after the prank. If the article is kept, though, some expansion would be nice. It doesn't seem long enough for a full article right now. Don Warren 04:20, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, per Don Warren. RMG 04:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as a meme that went far beyond SomethingAwful. --AlbertHerring 04:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - one of the most famous pranks, quite notable -- Tawker 04:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep One of the internets most famous pranks, extends FAR beyond the SA forum borders. And it's been writen about elsewhere ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 07:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep got media attention, good enough for me. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 11:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep (conditional) - I've heard about this on a few forums way before seeing its entry here. I've also heard rumors that one of the people involved in the prank was killed by the scammer. If it could be proven whether or not that happened, and that was added, I see a reason to keep this. --MewtwoStruckBack 17:32, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, this was regularly covered on Slashdot. It's a notable internet phenomenon. --AlexWCovington (talk) 17:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, I have certainly heard of it, and I am not one of the most well-informed people. I think this has a place - even if it is rewritten. Ian13/talk 17:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, same reason as above; I've heard of it, it's definitely something that's spread beyond SomethingAwful (as I'm not even a member of that community). Worth keeping, methinks. logic 18:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep It's a popular meme, and grew enough that it deserves its own page. User:terry
• Keep: Might want to tag for cleanup, but should not delete. I don't visit SA, but have heard this event referenced before. Popular enough to warrant staying. Fogster 19:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: A solid example of what an organized online community can accomplish. Smooth.kriminal 20:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: a notable meme with coverage outside the forum and meatspace media coverage as well.--Paleking 20:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: notable meme. Also, it's already survived one AFD. This isn't going to turn into another GNAA-style fiasco, where an article goes up for a deletion vote six or seven times, is it? 128.226.230.53 20:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep This is a very important Internet meme, and there is a place for it in an encyclopedia. Especially an online encyclopedia.. --munboy 20:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: the whole business of online scams is significant, and this is an excellent example to reference.--Sam0ht 21:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep: this has become part of Internet folklore.--Jan.vdbergh 21:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep: Quite notable, but needs more content. Alternately Merge into Scam baiting. --Bhtooefr 21:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep: this is a well known story. At least until there's a M-M-M-Macbook.
• Strong Keep: major internet meme.
• Keep, and the article should be expanded CoderGnome 00:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep, this is pretty much Internet history. Cosmotron 01:10, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep No reason for removal. --Mosquitopsu 01:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I see no reason for deletion of this article. Ayavaron 01:53, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• STRONG KEEP this is an insanely popular mime on slashdot and elsewhere that unfortunately will not die. Just another star in the night ^{T | @ | C} 01:57, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Timothyarnold85 02:33, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: this has become a part of Internet folklore, and is well-written to boot. Grodin Tierce 06:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: And maybe put up an article on scam-baiting?
  • Comment There is one----Drat (Talk) 08:21, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: It's a fact that actually happened and a part of internet folklore Muzzle 11:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: I never read SA, but found this mentioned on Slashdot, and it is one of the single funniest pieces of internet fokelore (in my non-humble, non-NPOV) that exists. If it doesn't get it's own article, it should at least be made part of a bigger one... - JustinWick 16:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: Legitimate part of Internet folklore, reasonable article. Richard W.M. Jones 18:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as notable internet phenomenon, and as per Justinwick. Kuzaar 19:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - I remember about 1 year ago thinking 'does WP have an article on everything, no matter how obscure' and spending about an hour looking for this article (trying all the spelling variations on i could think of coz WP search is crap) and then giving up. As for WP policies, I think this story is notable enough -- I stumbled upon it ages ago (and I don't visit something awful) and as for the sources, they aren't very high on the reliability scale -- but when I go through them again, I notice the story is still the same as last year suggesting that the sources aren't making things up. novacatz 06:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep as notable Internet meme that might be deserving of own article. If found to not be deserving, it should be merged with the Something Awful or Something Awful Forums article.Leftsaidfred 15:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC) 19:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep this is as notable as the other random internet meme articles that Wikipedia accomodates. The scam itself is referenced through the internet, calling it notable only to something awful members is incorrect.

• SUPER KeepAre you kidding? The only person who would want to delete this is the guy who PPPP-Paid for the P-P-P-Powerbook. This is probably one of the funniest jokes EVAR

• Keep, fits in very well with all the other Internet memes. -Loren 05:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Delete

• Delete, non-notable fancruft. incog 22:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, redundant information about a dead somethingawful meme/event. Can be covered tersely on the Something Awful page. Fancruft. Stuff like this should be on the somethingawful main page or a page of memes. --TrollHistorian 23:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, a single event. We argue over whether Wikipedia should have articles about old news stories-- well, this didn't even get a news story, it's just a prank that happened once. Ashibaka tock 03:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Ashibaka. --ElKevbo 04:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete This is a strong Internet meme, but does not seem notorious enough to merit Encyclopedia entry. MrKeith2317 04:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete - I remember and thoroughly enjoyed the story, but I do not believe for a second that it merits a Wikipedia article -- Hirudo 04:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete per incog and Hirudo Deleuze 05:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - blatant forumcruft (is there such a word?) Celebration of some online community's childish prank is not encyclopedic. I would support a weak merge into Something Awful, but I doubt this is notable enough to even belong there. -66.92.130.57 05:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable event that happened to appeal to geeks sense of superiority. -- GWO

Other

• Comment - I just came to this page because some one made a P-P-P-Powerbook reference on Slashdot today (obviously, read more of the thread to get the joke). So it seems relevant. --ZachPruckowski 17:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into Something Awful. — Linnwood 20:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.