Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Mark Pilgrim

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, someone wanting his article to be deleted shouldn't have an effect on its existence here, although it's easy to see why the article would be considered pointless since it doesn't really have much biographical information about the subject. However, that's a reason for improving the article, not deleting it. - Bobet 22:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Mark_Pilgrim

The subject believes himself to be non-notable and has asked for his page to be deleted [1]. The Wednesday Island 19:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - It really doesn't matter what a subject of an article thinks about it, besides the fact that we have no way to verify whether the person at the IP which left that comment is actually the subject. Couldn't I pull up the Charles Manson article, go on the talk page, and post from an IP saying "Charlie don't wiki!"? PT ^(s-s-s-s) 20:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Just a question... how do we know the IP is Mark Pilgrim? Also, just a little curiousity, I ran User:Interiot/Tool2/code.js on the IP mentioned by The Wednesday Island... here are the results. Username 129.33.49.251 -- Total edits 2066 -- Distinct pages edited -- 1394 Average edits/page -- 1.482 First edit -- 16:26, 7 November 2002. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 20:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It appears he posted a file on his website to verify that he does request deletion: [2]. Not that the subject's opinion is relevant. But you did ask. - htonl 04:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete because I don't think that this person is notable under the WP:BIO rules. It doesn't matter what the subject thinks. But my two cents is that this is unsourced and non-notable. Delete. Allisonmontgomery69 22:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: I should point out that there is in fact a South African DJ and TV presenter of the same name (see [3]). He probably is notable, since (amongst other things) he was the host of Big Brother South Africa (dreck though it may be...). So if an article by this title pops up again it might in fact be about him rather than the subject of the current article. - htonl 04:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep if rewritten. Mark Pilgrim is not only notable for his book on Python, but also for writing the highly popular Universal Feed Parser tool, being one of the main cheerleaders of Greasemonkey, and one of the designers of the Atom API. All of these can and should be properly referenced. For precedent, see articles on people of comparable notability: Aaron Swartz, Joi Ito, and Sam Ruby, for examples. This is a lazy person's vote, as I am not volunteering to do the legwork. Delete if no suckervolunteer can be found to clean it up. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 13:33, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.