Wiki143:Articles for deletion/List of dictators before 1789

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 13:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

List of dictators before 1789 plus List of European Dictators & List of Europein Dictators

User:J intela, a 15 year old who claims to be "unrivaled in all arias of Sciance and Social studies," created this article for original research that he was unable to add at List of dictators, introducing the very problems the editors at that list have tried very hard to avoid. For example, his claim that Cypselus was the first dictator of all time, although without explanation he has now discovered an earlier one. The list largely repeats List of ancient Greek tyrants, but also includes some medieval Italians for no apparent reasons.

Historians do not generally use the term "dictator" for people who governed before the Atlantic Revolutions. Prior to that autocratic leaders were the norm, and any attempt to list such leaders would include nearly all of them.

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reasons:

List of European Dictators

List of Europein Dictators (this latter being redundant anyway)

Emeraude 00:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Gazpacho 00:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, original research, no apparent criteria. Gazpacho 23:54, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, original research, and 1789 seems to be a rather arbitrary cutoff. -- Whpq 00:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as (variously) redundant lists, lists containing Original Research, lists with arbitrary inclusion criteria and attempts to retcon history. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy Delete Fails WP:OR. L0b0t 02:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete Fails WP:OR. Elomis 03:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.