Wiki143:Articles for deletion/List of ESPN Sunday Night Baseball games

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Wikipedia is not a directory or a TV guide. seicer | talk | contribs 13:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

List of ESPN Sunday Night Baseball games

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Yet another list of mostly non-notable MLB games. ViperSnake151 00:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

How is this list of television episodes any less notable than all the other lists of television shows found on Wikipedia - some of which are Featured Lists? Dave28540 (talk) 01:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as directory. Tavix (talk) 02:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - Good navigational aid. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 02:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Wikipedia isn't a directory for listing every baseball game just because it's on ESPN. RobJ1981 (talk) 05:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as I said on the previous AfD, this is an unneeded list of random scores only connected by these games airing on ESPN on Sunday nights, and there's no need for it. Nate • (chatter) 07:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete- Wikipedia is not a directory, nor a dumping ground for every piece of information that exists. Reyk YO! 13:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Although I think that the tabular information is way too redundant (if you say Cubs 4 @ Dodgers 0, then you don't need to add that it was the Chicago Cubs playing the Los Angeles Dodgers at Dodgers Stadium), the subject is notable enough to be kept. Sunday Night Baseball has been MLB's showcase game of the week for nearly 2 decades, since the broadcast networks found that a prime-time baseball show has lower ratings than other types of entertainment. Mandsford (talk) 14:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong delete: Wikipedia is not TV Guide. There are dozens and dozens of services for finding what's on tonight, and some people even live outside of the US. At least, that's what I hear. Utgard Loki (talk) 17:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment In all fairness, I don't the article is about what's on tonight. If it can tell me the score for the day after tomorrow's game, however, that would be monetarily helpful. Mandsford (talk) 18:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete for violation of WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Arsenikk (talk) 21:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete: I love baseball, but this is not really the form for a directory of what games ESPN has and will show on a particular night.WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Edit: Sorry, forgot to sign. Yachtsman1 (talk) 00:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong keep I'm the creator of said article. I don't understand the comments that the article is a "directory." It's not. It's a list of television episodes in the same sense as, for example, List of Doctor Who serials, List of Seinfeld episodes, or Monday Night Football results (1990-present). Nor, as someone else said, is it a listing of "every baseball game just because it's on ESPN." And with regard to complaints about listing "what's on tonight," the upcoming games are scheduled and announced as being on ESPN (I admit sourcing for that could and should be improved, but the games aren't being pulled out of thin air). Plus, it appears to be common practice for episode lists to include episodes yet to be aired, as evidenced by the section for the upcoming season of House. Just because the program showcases a weekly sporting event as opposed to being a weekly sitcom or drama shouldn't subject it to different treatment, in my opinion. As I said the last time this went up for debate, I think improvements to the article can definitely be made, and I'm happy to work with anyone on achieving that. But deleting it shouldn't be the answer. --Highway99 (talk) 04:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong delete — I suppose Ugh! is not a valid argument, but Ugh! A list of games is acceptable within each team's season articles (e.g. 2008 Pittsburgh Pirates season), but not specifically games on one network. Ugh! — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 20:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - Listing games that were broadcasted on a certain network on a certain day is is not an encyclopedia. Pie is good (Apple is the best) 23:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong delete. Clear directory issues. Fairly or not sporting events are treated differently than scripted tv shows by reliable sources, and thus by Wikipedia. Results are properly covered in the team articles. Eluchil404 (talk) 02:58, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
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