Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Kirov Airship

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Merge; as deletion would be cutting close to lack of consensus, and keep would only reflect two votes, this article needs to be Merged. — Deckiller 01:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Kirov Airship

Not quite notable enough for Wikipedia as a whole. Suggested merge into Command and Conquer-related articles. --NicAgent 03:12, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

• Merge, otherwise, it is not notable... Michael 07:25, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• speedy merge+redirect, tiny little stub, quite obvious Joeyramoney 03:20, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep --Taida 03:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete Pffft. gamecruft. Merge some detail in the main game article if it isn't already there. Otherwise, the usual Wikipedia is not a game manual reasons Bwithh 03:38, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete This is just an element of a game. If anything, the information should be put in one of the articles associated with the games in which this element exists. joturner 05:01, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. I think that not quite notable enough is an understatement. Pascal.Tesson 05:25, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as gamecruft. Add a small mention in the Command and Conquer article if needed. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 05:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete agree gamecruft. Ste4k 09:20, 2 July 2006(UTC)
• Merge into C&C Feedyourfeet 09:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-07-02 09:26Z
• Delete gamecruft. SM247^{My Talk} 10:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into C&C -- Alias Flood 17:07, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and expand. The Kirov Airship is a notable military vehicle in the C & C games. Moreover, these computer games in themselves are notable in the field of video-gaming. Much could be written about this subject matter as well. For example, the manner in which this military vehicle is being included in these games could be further explained in this article. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 18:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Sigh Wikipedia is NOT a video game manual Bwithh 19:32, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree with you but this article is not a video game manual. It simply explains that there is a airship in the C&C games. It does not tell readers how to use the Kirov Airship, it just tells them that there is a airship in the game.--Taida 19:55, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

• Oh? They are extremely tough and each bomb can damage a enemy building severly. If used properly, only one kirov is needed to destroy an entire enemy base. That sure sounds like advice to the player to me. --Calton | Talk 04:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

• These are true facts. They are in fact extremely tough and each bomb does damage an enemy building severly. They don't tell the reader advice, they only give them true facts. "Only one kirov is needed to destroy an entire enemy base" is a true fact. I once destroyed several bases with one kirov. This sentence does not tell the reader how to use one kirov to destroy an enemy base, only the fact that a kirov is capable of destroying an enemy base.--Taida 00:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

• Redirect it isn't notable and there is nothing to merge. Wikibout-Talk to me! 20:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It is the most notable unit in the whole game!!!. All we need to do is expand the article.--Taida 00:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge I have no idea how notable this piece of virtual machinery is, it's clearly no BFG , and the article is tiny, this subject obviously doesn't need its own article. --eivind^t@c 22:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete it was in one game. The second one listed on the page is an expansion pack. NN nothing to merge. --Pboyd04 23:17, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Correct me if I'm mistaken but I think expansion packs count as games--Taida 01:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
    • You can probably make that case, but in this case I can't really see it. The expansion pack didn't add a full games worth of play but that is just my opinion. --Pboyd04 04:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as nn gamecruft. --MCB 02:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Delete as gamecruft, not in the least bit useful outside the context of the game. --Calton | Talk 04:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • This article is still better than nothing and besides it is useful outside the context of the game.For example, it gives inspiration to game makers and artists. It gives inspiration to airship builders. This piece of information is important to almost everyone so I think it shouldn't be gamecruft.--Taida 22:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• SHOCKER! The nominator has been indefinitely blocked from editing, apparently in response to him playing Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde on Wikipedia - using his main account to contribute positively, and doing pure vandalism on many, many sockpuppet accounts. In this case, the vote here could be a Speedy Keep. --64.251.53.130 23:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It could be, but it's not. In some cases the information you provide would be germane, but since as you noted this account was used positively, I don't see that it is here. Herostratus 23:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
    • So is it a speedy keep or not?--Taida 00:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into Command & Conquer: Red Alert series. In fact, I already copied the material into that article (by mistake, I thought the AfD was ready to close), so if Merge is the consensus as seems likely the closing admin only needs to delete the article. Herostratus 23:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
• "Delete' Treebark 18:39, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.