Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Khalida Ghous

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The result was Keep per consensus PeaceNT 06:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Khalida Ghous

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subject doesn't meet WP:BIO, article fails WP:ATT, requests for third-party references and to establish notability have simply been removed from the article without correcting the problem, subject gets less that 200 Ghits after excluding Wikipedia mirrors: Delete. Jefferson Anderson 20:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

• Looks like a routine CV to me. Anthony Appleyard 20:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
• Article clearly meets WP:BIO and WP:ATT. Notes and references have been provided. Lady is a renowned scholar from Pakistan. Article is worth including here. DO NOT delete.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.132.113.214 (talk • contribs)
• From nowhere it looks like a CV. Its a complete article. People concerned may improve the article but it should not be deleted at all.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.132.113.214 (talk • contribs) this is the second vote for this IP
• Keep She is the author of two published books, which is above the average for university professors; together with her service, for which the university, Henry L. Stimson and SPDC site is a RS, she would appear to be above the line for notability. The Nation link is the proof of her importance and standing in her activism in Pakistan.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.132.113.214 (talk • contribs) this is the third vote for this IP

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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel Bryant 10:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. -- Pete.Hurd 13:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep from the information provided she is notable as a public figure, or as an academic administrator. If she has written only two books, she probably would not be notable as a scholar according to WP:PROF, but there is no reason why a professor cannot be notable for activity in public affairs. It seems she is. However, if she is as notable as it seems, there will have been magazine articles, possibly newspaper articles, and other discussions about her and her work. They really must be added, because we cannot tell otherwise. I want to mention that a mere count of English language ghits is not necessarily appropriate. It's more appropriate to examine them and see if any of them are usable references. And the criterion for keeping is not whether an article looks like a CV but whether the subject is notable.

I strongly urge her supporters to first of all get user names for themselves, and then to get some references and put them in. There is no point going to the trouble of writing unreferenced articles.DGG 02:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - definitely evidence that she is a noted public figure and so meetings WP:BIO and probably WP:PROF Madmedea 14:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep - Now I've provided the article with ample important sources and references. We all should just think for moment that what does it mean for a women in Pakistan to reach that position. We should also not go after the internet references as in Pakistan, this phenomenon has not yet flourished to keep everything's record online. You may not find many of the top intellectuals of Pakistan online because of the same reason. I hope now you people will understand and foil the debate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.132.113.214 (talk • contribs) Note: 4th !vote by this IP in this AfD
• Keep links added by 221.132.113.214 establish notability: eg, as a public intellectual "Pakistan's former foreign secretary Niaz A Niak will head his country's team of intellectuals comprising Gen K M Arif (Retd.), Lt-Gen Nishat Ahmad (Retd), Maj-Gen Ghulam Omar (Retd), former Sindh governor Ashraf Tabani, former secretary finance H U Baig, former law minister Shahida Jamil and Prof Khalida Ghous of the Karachi University.", and mention in prominnt newspaper editorial " in Karachi the non-official Social Policy and Development Centre under Dr. Khalida Ghous now has conducted excellent studies in the social and economic sectors keeping in view the needs of the people". Transcript of her TV interview posted on the President of Pakistan's official website, etc. Pete.Hurd 16:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

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