Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Idiot

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The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 14:34, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Idiot

Previous version: [1] Another page pending deletion. It should not be summarily deleted. While the encyclopedic content appears to have been transwikied, there are two comments on the discussion page opposing deletion. I agree that at least the ancient Athenian meaning and the medical definition have potential for encyclopedic expansion, in terms of political correctness and proposed explanations and treatments. Kappa 14:15, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. The word has enough history to be an encyclopedic article. The revision you linked to looks good to me. Thue | talk 14:51, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, restore article and expand. Megan1967 08:46, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The medical definition and the Ancient Greek definition makes the basis for an article. I suspect more could be said too. Capitalistroadster 09:51, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, also a famous novel by Fyodor Dostoyevsky (it's at The Idiot, but some disambig or redirect should be present). Grue 18:37, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - David Gerard 23:29, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Please see what is written on the Administrators Noticeboard about this and similar articles. Uncle G 12:12, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC)
  • Keep If you are referring to the "articles already in Wikidictionary" section, I completely disagree with you. Wincoote 13:42, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Given the previous version of your comment [2], which seems to bear no relation at all to what was actually written, I suspect that you did not in fact understand what was written. Uncle G 07:18, 2005 Mar 21 (UTC)
• Keep, restore earlier content, this is by no means just Wiktionary material. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:52, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. One could easily turn this into a more historical treatment of the many approaches to this term. (see, i.e. feeble-minded). --Fastfission 20:33, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Some commentary from Wikipedia:Things to be moved to Wiktionary:
  • Idiot --Chessphoon 20:55, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. It is an OK stub. Paul3144
    • Keep. The bit about Athenian politics (could be expanded) makes it a non-dicdef. -- Kizor 17:12, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Move. It's barely a stub, and a redirect using interwiki links would be fine. Most dictionaries do have a little bit of the "history" of the word, but not enough to be encyclopaedic, just like in idiot. --TIB (talk) 03:54, Oct 3, 2004 (UTC)
    • Move. The info about Athenian politics is Etymology of the word Idiot.
    • Move. It's basically just a definition and etymology. It should be turned into a redirect for mental retardation or something. —Simetrical (talk) 23:30, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Note that there is no "encyclopaedic content" about idiots on this page. Everything that is on this page is dictionary entry content about the word "idiot" (including, as mentioned, the etymology) that is also in the dictionary entry at Wiktionary:idiot. Also note that the latter was independently grown, not transwikied. Uncle G 07:18, 2005 Mar 21 (UTC)
• Keep. Yes, the article needs editing, but the article is needed. By searching information about idiot in medical sense is how I arrived here. --EnSamulili 14:15, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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