Wiki143:Articles for deletion/IBM Rome Software Lab

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The result was no consensus, default to keep. Poorly written, but not an ad. The Transhumanist 04:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC) (non admin closure; endorsed by Kubigula (talk)).

IBM Rome Software Lab

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Procedural nomination; contested CSD. Tagged as CSD for advertising. Keilana^talk_(recall) 23:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

• keep It is poorly written, by someone with too much marketing experience, but it isn't *that* overly ad-wise. It claims notability clearly within the article as the largest software lab. It needs verification by reliable sources, but if the claims are true, then it is notable. The spammy stuff (one or two lines is all) can be deleted easily. Pharmboy (talk) 02:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. This laboratory has been covered enough by unrelated sources to show clear notability (Techrepublic, ZDNet, FastCompany, etc.) Tanthalas39 (talk) 04:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. The lab may be mentioned in article about Tivoli, there's no need to cover every current and historic IBM organization. Notable exceptions, like the groups working on bleeding edge hardware technologies or the once massive lab in Boca Raton are not reason to duplicate IBM corporate structure over here. Having 500 people it may not be the "largest software development company in Italy", consulting companies and large manufacturers may have large centers (all depends how "software development" is defined). Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 18:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. Tivoli Software is a very important brand of the IBM Software Group, one of the major divisions of IBM and the IBM Software Laboratory in Rome is IBM’s largest Tivoli development location outside the USA. For sure, this lab represents one of the most important and largest software development laboratory in Italy (see for instance, EMEA Best Student Recognition Event, etc.).--Romelab (talk) 00:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete unless proper refs are placed in the article showing multiple independent evidence of notability. I was planning to vote keep but can only get 3-GHits, and 2 are from WikiPedia. Also I can't help wondering whether User:Romelab should declare an interest :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by NBeale (talk • contribs) 12:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JERRY ^talk _contribs 22:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• Keep for a really major company, the main divisions like this are notable. DGG (talk) 19:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.