Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Election of 1828

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus; redirected to U.S. presidential election, 1828. Johnleemk | Talk 10:34, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Election of 1828

The title of the article is U.S.-centric. The article describes the Presidential election of the United States in 1828. As I suspect most editors will agree, there were many elections in 1828, and not all of them took place in the U.S. Thus, to have a single article titled "Election of 1828", and to have it speak of the U.S. Presidential Election of 1828 as though it were the election of 1828, is disrepectful to our international brethren and sistren. Aside from which, the contents of Election of 1828 largely duplicate the contents of U.S. presidential election, 1828. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 16:18, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

• Comment ∾ It seems that there are several of these "Election of $YEAR" articles, some of which have been redirected to "U.S. presidential election, $YEAR". I find these redirects to suffer from the same U.S.-centric problems as the articles themselves. So, at the suggestion of Kelly Martin, I'm going to track these rascals down and make disambiguation pages out of them, starting with the page which prompted this AfD in the first place. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 16:33, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• Disambiguate. If there were other notable elections in 1828 (and I'm sure there were, I just don't know if we have articles on them) then make Election of 1828 into a disambig page describing and linking these elections. Firebug 16:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• Comment Does it make sense to create a disambiguation page if there is only a single relevant article? This is not a relevant article since it's about an election which already has an article, so I would say Delete. Kreydon 16:44, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
  • I am indeed having difficulty finding comparable articles about other elections in the stated year, and begin to lean more towards your view. There's no point in creating a disambiguation page if there is no ambiguity to disambiguate. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 16:50, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• Comment ∾ As a further comment, I have found similar pages at Election of 1796, Election of 1824, Election of 1860, and Election of 1948. Of those pages, only Election of 1796 required minor disambiguation. The other pages have no ambiguity to disambiguate as far as I can discover, and are currently serving as redirects to U.S. presidential election, 1824, U.S. presidential election, 1860, and U.S. presidential election, 1948, respectively. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 17:42, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• Disambig. There should at least be multiple American elections in any given year (presidential, congressional, gubernatorial) even if there were no votes held elsewhere in the world. - SimonP 18:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Can't that go into US election of $BODY in $YEAR? This is en.wikipedia, not wikipedia.us! 82.26.160.214 18:40, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. In its present form the article can't be kept because this is English-language Wikipedia, not US wikipedia and there is a better duplicate in the proper place. People would search for, say, 1828 US Presidential Election or 1828 British Parliamentary Election. Election of 1828 is a particuliarly clumsy page title. Election of what? Iff another election of a head of government or parliament took place in 1828 it can always be turned into a disambiguation page. 82.26.160.214 Pilatus 18:34, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• If we have articles on other elections held in that year, it should be moved to Elections of 1828 and used as a disambiguation. If not, it should redirect to the U.S. presidential election, 1828 article until such time as we do have articles. Capitalistroadster 19:43, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Comparing the two articles, the non-nominated article is far more advanced. The nominated article should be deleted, but without a redirect due to the US-centric concerns above. Then rename the balce of the articles using the U.S. presidential election, 1824 format. Jtmichcock 20:07, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• Disambiguate on the condition that there were other elections in 1828. List of state leaders in 1828 certainly demonstrates that there were other republics in that year and thus other elections may or may not have happened. --YixilTesiphon Say hello 21:17, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• Disambiguate if there's something to disambiguate between, otherwise delete. Redirecting a general election article to a US presidential one is POV. Redirects should point to what users are looking for and you can't assume the election they're looking for is the US presidential one. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:13, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. If there's any new info that isn't already there, it can be added to U.S. presidential election, 1828 where it belongs. *Dan T.* 06:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
• Definitely not a keep. Possible to disambiguate, redirect, or merge. My preference is to merge. Stifle 14:57, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.