Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Central Hotel, Toronto

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. --Ezeu 04:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Central_Hotel,_Toronto

Central Hotel, Toronto

No apparent encyclopaedic value. --Krytan talk 02:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

1. Delete. I have to agree that the subject of this article lacks notability, although I cannot approve the manner by which it was nominated, i.e. retaliation for a AfD of one of Krytan's articles. Cortomaltais 18:22, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
2. Delete. Same comment. Childish reaction of Krytan but he also happens to be right in this case (in contrast with this). The articles concerning hotels need to be more systematically checked for notability and I encourage anyone interested to look at my notability guidelines for hotels. Pascal.Tesson 15:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Comment This was no retaliation, only the Ritz Carlton was, along with another. I have to admit, the Ritz Carlton was done in bad faith and never will happen again, but I have one thing to say. If something in the article is bothering you, instead of requesting deletion right away, request a rewrite on the talk page so it would be in a better encyclopedia format, instead of deleting the whole thing. --Krytan talk 19:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

(I was the one that AfD'ed two of Krytan's articles on hotels, hence my reply here): when I feel that for some article a rewrite won't help, I just ProD or AfD (and when a ProD is removed, I almost always move it to AfD as well). I usually check if the subject of the article has the potential to become a decent Wikipedia article, even if the current one may not fit into it. For those articles (as for my other nominations), I din't think the subject had a sufficient claim to notability to be included here, so I put them in AfD. Still, this gives you and anyone else the chance to have a discussion (normally for some 5 days, I believe) and to convince others that the potential for a good article is there. I haven't seen any evidence that asking for a rewrite instead of putting the two articles on AfD would have done any good. Krytan, I think it's best if you want to discuss this further that you either take it to our user talk pages, or that we have this discussion at the notability guidelines for hotels Pascal has started. Fram 14:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. (Liberatore, 2006). 12:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom Fram 14:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. If you are visiting Toronto, a hotel that charges $140 a week might be preferable to one charging that amount per night. I made some minor improvements to the article, but this is one of my less enthusiastic keep votes. --TruthbringerToronto 16:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

That's the kind of info you may want from Wikitravel, but not from Wikipedia. Prices and quality of hotels are no reason for inclusion nor exclusion. Fram 19:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, one of about 300 million non-notable hotels. Advertisement. KleenupKrew 20:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, just because a hotel costs $140 a week doesn't mean it's notable. In fact, a hotel charging that little per week would make me less likely to stay there. --Coredesat talk 21:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Fram's comment above: this is Wikipedia, not Wikitravel. — Haeleth Talk 22:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete non-encyclopedic. OSU80 17:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.