Wiki143:Articles for deletion/Brian Chase

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jimbo deleted the article out of human dignity and it is covered in the controversy article, so I have speedy closed the nomination. I moved the drummer article to Brian Chase. I do not think that the controversial Brian Chase even needs a mention at the top of the article, but if someone wants to put it in, fine. If you want Brian Chase to be a redirect to the controversy article and there to be a link at the top to Brian Chase (drummer), you can do a requested move. -- Kjkolb 17:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Brian Chase

Outside the John Seigenthaler Sr. Wikipedia biography controversy, the subject of this article isn't very notable. The material about the subject and references cited in this article already exist in the Seigenthaler article. What isn't already there could be merged. I suggest that this article be deleted and replaced with a redirect. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 14:48, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

CommentAlso please note this: [1]. Jimbo decided to redirect and protect that entry. The same should be done in this case. This conflicts with a potentially notable drummer at Brian Chase (drummer), so it is important for something to be done here. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 20:32, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Comment For those voting revert: what do you propose we do when people wikilink the name "Brian Chase" in the Seigenthaler article? -- Malber (talk • contribs) 15:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Revert it. And put in HTML comments everywhere by his name saying "Do not wikilink". —Chowbok 15:18, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Okay, so anytime anyone googles Brian Chase looking for information about the Seigenthaler affair will find information about the drummer. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 16:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
They'll find the article about the drummer, the first two lines of which are "This article is about the drummer for the rock band Yeah Yeah Yeahs. For the former Wikipedia editor, see John Seigenthaler Sr. Wikipedia biography controversy." —Chowbok 16:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom. The only notable thing about this guy is his involvement in the Seigenthaler affair. No chance for expansion. Pan Dan 15:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Revert and keep I knew something was up when I saw this name- Brian Chase (drummer) beats skins for one of my favorite bands, Yeah Yeah Yeahs. A while back, this was a disambiguation page consisting of that Brian Chase and the one in question; it previously just contained a two-sentence summary of the WP-related Chase and linked to the Seigenthaler controversy page. I see no reason why this cannot and should not be reverted to the dab page it had formerly been. -- Kicking222 19:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Move Brian Chase (drummer) to Brian Chase and link near the top to Seigenthaler controversy, per Talk:Brian_Chase#Not a disambig. Don't revert to this version of Brian Chase as it may be a non-GFDL-compliant copy of Brian Chase (drummer). Pan Dan 19:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
    • That's exactly what I did, months ago (there already was a successful AFD on the hoaxster). Some anon went in and changed it. This should have just been reverted as simple vandalism, not submitted for an AFD. —Chowbok 20:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Outside of the things he's notable for, he's not notable? So what. Let's merge John Wilkes Booth to Abraham Lincoln, Gwen Stefani to No Doubt, and Bill O'Reilly to Feces. VivianDarkbloom 20:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Wait, you're equating a wikipedia vandal to a presidential assasin? Gwen Stefani is a solo artist, but if she wasn't I'd say okay. And Bill O'Reilly...well you're okay on that one. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 20:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Move merge or delete - at any rate rid us of this bio. He's only notable within the controversy. Comparing him to Lincoln's assassin is just really stupid. --Doc 21:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Move merge or delete Not enough to justify a stand-alone article. --Calton | Talk 22:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - Fuck this, why are we arguing over the deletion of an article which has been vandalised? Why have we now farmed the original Brian Chase article off to another one without even a dab link? Close this, and revert back to the original article. Absolutely trivial guy, of no consequence and already covered in the main article. Note that if you check Talk:Brian Chase and the Seigenthaler incident archives, this is exactly what I thought when it first happened. Let's not do the cycle again. This is the Wikitruth. - Hahnchen 02:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge and change back to disambig Not enough notability for own article Bwithh 02:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Revert back to article about drummer. As I said above, this shouldn't even be an AFD. An anon vandal changed article to be about a different person, and rather than simply reverting it was submitted for deletion. We had a solution to this for months which nobody objected to. And if it's deleted now, we'll lose the history of the drummer article. —Chowbok 02:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Revert per Chowbok. Other article will need redirection. --Dhartung | Talk 07:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Revert per Chowbok, perfectly reasonable idea. Guy 10:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
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