Wiki143:Articles for deletion/An intelligent

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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was del. mikka (t) 04:11, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

An intelligent

This is not an English language term, and in fact is a violation of English grammar. It should be merged and redirected to Intelligentsia, but every time I try that, User:LevKamensky keeps reverting me. Delete. Don't even transwiki to Wiktionary, since it isn't an English term. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:40, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete. Jumps curiously between first, second and third persons -- both singular and plural... paul klenk 22:47, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Molotov (talk) File:Flag of California.svg 22:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as neologism in English, with no actual currency. -- MCB 23:10, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep What User:Zoe fails to consider, [personal attack removed], is that this is not an English dictionary, this is an encyclopedia, the purpose of which is to inform and entertain. Individuality is encouraged, and users are even encouraged to spell creatively as stated on the front page. I have been working hard making contributions, while User: Zoe apparently (from a superficial glance at his discussion page) has been working hard vandalizing others’ contributions. There are many words that are not English, but were borrowed from other languages because they are important concepts that are impossible to substitute, such words as dacha, perestroika etc. ‘’’An intelligent’’’ is a unique irreplaceable concept, and therefore deserves a place in this resource. I am qualified to make this assessment because I was raised in the former USSR, and my family belongs to the intelligentsia class. I am also an English writer and poet. The authors of the intelligentsia article are students from India, whose idea of the term is extremely vague and superficial, and frankly the article is amateurish. But unlike User:Zoe I appreciate various perspectives, that give the reader more food for thought. An intelligent (like serf for example) is a type of person, that does not exist in English speaking countries, the term was not widely known here. And the purpose of an encyclopedia is to inform, not to reiterate already known facts. I believe User:Zoe came here with the wrong motives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LevKamensky (talk • contribs) 23:32, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
At least I'm neither making personal attacks, nor assuming ill will, nor am I vandalizing pages by deleting mergeto headers. And why are you calling me "he"? User Talk:Zoe|(talk) 23:36, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
You would censor me for not using "he or she", your gender was not evident to me, maybe that's why. Vandalizing my own work, can't beat logic! The point is this, Wikipedia's policy is very flexible and you are running around, looking for a problem to fix where there is none. So my conclusion is that you are, not being constructive, but rather selfish, and should be banned from this resource because you are a hindrance to the creative process.User:LevKamensky
You may be interested in this "gentleman"'s edit to my Talk page. User:Zoe|(talk) 17:59, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
I get the feeling we're slowly but steadily approaching an RfC for disruptive behaviour: attacking other users, assuming bad faith, edit warring, cloning of pages under AfD, AfD-spamming, misuse of namespace. Aecis 13:35, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
  • OK, back to the topic, and delete per Zoe --Doc (?) 00:46, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. This is not a terminology. -Splashtalk 01:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete - Lev, perhaps you can contribute to the Intelligentsia page if you feel that it is too vague and lacking detail? --Camw 01:48, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • A delete. For reasoning given above. Sabine's Sunbird 02:31, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. WP is not a dictionary for awkward translations of terms in other languages that are not used in English; this is nearly a neologism (in English). And please, no personal attacks against Zoe or the authors of Intelligentsia -- if you don't like it, edit it. Bikeable 02:41, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete and ban User:LevKamensky for vandalizing this vfd page. Trapolator 03:51, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
    • I've blocked LevKamensky for the duration of this AfD. --MarkSweep✍ 07:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete and also speedy delete the clone Intelligent (a person) of the article under consideration, which User:LevKamensky has just created. - Introvert talk 04:39, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
    • I've speedy-deleted the clone. --MarkSweep✍ 07:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, maybe make Intelligent a disambig instead of redirect and refer a meaning to Intelligentsia. If something is usable in the An intelligent article it can be safely merged to Intelligentsia abakharev 05:41, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete this article and that on Kamensky's daddy and a twin Category:Russian intelligentsia, started by him today. --Ghirlandajo 07:03, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
    • Daddy seems to be reasonably notable abakharev 07:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • delete dab (ᛏ) 08:13, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • delete and merge with Intelligentsia (if there is any6thing worth merging)... Halibutt 09:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Shillori 12:26, 16 September 2005 (UTC) (user's first edit --Doc (?) 12:33, 16 September 2005 (UTC))
  • Comment: if this is indeed standard Russian terminology, why is there not an interwiki link to the equivalent article in the Russia wikipedia? If there is such an article, then presumably there should be an equivalent article here: maybe this is simply not the appropriate title for it? We might be looking at a tragic failure of translation here—maybe someone who can read Russian could help out? —Phil | Talk 14:00, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • delete. "Intelligent(Russian language)" is commonly translated as "intellectual" without significant loss of the specific russian snobism enclosed in the russian term. Also, the artile is original research, full of false statements. mikka (t) 17:39, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 20:04, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Del and suggest the creator get familiar with WP:RULES ←Humus sapiens←ну? 01:07, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. This article violates just about any Wikipedia policy: NPOV, naming conventions, original research, soapbox. Get rid of it. Don't even merge or redirect. And Lev: an important tenet of Wikipedia is Wikiquette. Insulting and flaming Zoe does not go down well here. Aecis 13:20, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: hmm.. yup it might be not what pple like, but so is dutch slave trading history or the terror (like the bataljon "Van Heutsz" in Indonesia) we caused. (Siong Han)
    • The previous comment was made by Script error: No such module "user"., user's first and thusfar only edit. Aecis 16:11, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
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So long

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