Wiki143:Articles for deletion/"The Base"

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was merge and redirect to 2004 American League Championship Series. Please note that merge/delete is not a valid course of action. howcheng {chat} 19:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

"The Base"

• Keep, or possibly merge into the ALCS article. It was the most pivotal play of the greatest baseball series of all time, and has become lore. It deserves to be told. Whether or not it needs its own page for that...

The event definetly happened, but I don't personally think that it's encyclopedic. Seems a bit crufty to me. Maybe could be merged someone, if it really was important. Hedley 03:31, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Original research, unverifiable. Flyboy Will 04:16, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete an individual sports play would have to be really, really, really super mega uber ultra extra beyond notable to get its own encyclopedia article. While this one does seem to be pivotal to how the series turned out, it isn't something that needs its own article. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 04:38, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep This event is worthy of an entry for two reasons. Firstly, it was - arguably - the most pivotal play of the most exciting series in baseball history. In fact, it may go down as the most memorable stolen base in baseball history. Secondly, the phrase has started to acquire its own etymological significance. Just as the annual Harvard / Yale football game is understood to be The Game, Dave Roberts' base will always be The Base. Regarding verifiability, one need only read the game's box score available here [1]
• Delete, nn sports happening. Red Sox and Yankees fans have a much higher opinion of their teams' importance. User:Zoe|^(talk) 05:01, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete for two reasons: neologism (Google search "the base" "dave roberts" doesn't give anything in top 100 describing the play this way), and not significant enough for its own article anyway. Belongs in 2004 American League Championship Series. VT hawkeye_{talk to me} 06:15, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into 2004 American League Championship Series. If it can be verified that non-local media refer to it as "The Base," then and only then should the name be used. B.Wind 06:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to Al Qaeda (literally "The Base") Endomion 06:38, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into 2004 ALC as above, and no redirect -- nobody would search for al-Qa'eda by typing "The Base." Draeco 07:18, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, possibly expand. It's a very notable thing, as it refers to an event in a championship game/series (okay, so it wasn't the World Series, but the pennant is still a big deal), and does get thrown about by baseball fans. --Thephotoman 08:01, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Move to something like "The Base" (2004 American League Championship Series). 'The base' should be a disambig, if anything, because there have probably been many things referred to as 'the base' -- Astrokey44|talk 08:45, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, sportscruft. — JIP | Talk 09:03, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as per VT hawkeye. -- Kjkolb 11:45, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. --Nlu (talk) 07:52, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and do not redirect unless someone finds evidence that the play was called this outside of NY/Boston. (ESkog)^(Talk) 17:47, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge to the ALCS page. As an avid Sox fan and one who consumes more sports media in the Boston area, I don't recall ever seeing it referred to as "The Base," but rather "The Steal." Go figure. --badlydrawnjeff 16:04, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This isn't a commonly used name for that particular play, and all relevant content is already present within 2004 American League Championship Series. Since it's not a commonly used term, there's no real point in a redirect to the ALCS article. No strong opinion on the Al Qaeda proposal, though I wouldn't stand in anyone's way if they wanted to go ahead..-Colin Kimbrell 15:47, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.