Talk:Yermolayev Yer-2
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Data quoted from http://www.aviation.ru/okb.php#yer by the owner of aviation.ru
I have completely revised and expanded this article and put it in the new WPAVIATION format.Petebutt (talk) 09:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Suggested table
Hi there, I was looking at this article (which I think is very good), and was wondering if there was a neater way to present the list of variants on this and other military aircraft articles. I experimented, and drew up the table below based on this list in this article - what do the prinicpal editors think, is this better than the straight list?--Jackyd101 (talk) 23:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
| Yermolayev Yer-2 variants | |
|---|---|
| Variant | Specifications |
| DB-240 | Two prototypes of the Yer-2 series with two 1,050 hp M-105 engines. |
| Yer-2; | Production version with two M-105 engines, 128 built. |
| Yer-2/AM-37 | One aircraft re-engined with two 1,380 hp Mikulin AM-37 engines, the fastest of all Yer-2s. |
| Yer-2/M-40F | The first diesel-powered Yer-2, with modified wings. 1 converted from Yer-2 with two 1,500 hp Charomskiy M-40F diesel engines. |
| Yer-2/ACh-30B | Production version of the diesel-engined version. Performance was excellent despite the poor reliability and rough running of the Charomskiy ACh-30B diesel engines. |
| Yer-2ON | (Osobogo Naznachyeniya – special assignment) – Two aircraft from the Yer-2/ACh-30B production line converted with a 12 seat VIP cabin, military equipment removed and long-range fuel tanks in the bomb-bay. A third aircraft converted from a Yer-2 (1941 production) was used for shuttle flights between Irkutsk and Moscow. |
| Yer-2N | (Nositel – carrier) – One aircraft converted as an engine test-bed for captured Argus As 014 pulse jet engines. |
| Yer-2/M-120 | One aircraft re-engined with 1,500 hp inverted 'Y' Klimov M-120 engines. Not confirmed. |
| Yer-2/MB-100 | One production aircraft used as a test-bed for the Script error: No such module "convert". Dobrotvorskii MB-100 engine. |
| Yer-4 | The final iteration of the Yer-2 series was a 1941 production aircraft re-engined with ACh-30BF engines. Not |
Merge discussion
DB-240, Yer-2/ACh-30B, Yer-2/AM-37, and Yer-2/M-40F → Yermolayev Yer-2
The content of these article can easily be explained in the context of the main article, and the main article is of a reasonable size that the merging will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. These are all minor variants, none of which entered production. As an aside, all of these are incorrectly titled, as the Manufacturer's name is missing. - BilCat (talk) 17:58, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- None of these are worthy of their own articles and should be merged into this article.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:53, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- If you view them not worthy just tag for deletion, all of the contents of the pages come from here. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:52, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- The content was COPIED from the Yer-2 article in the first place, so it isn't a merge (unless there is more content), just change to re-directs--Petebutt (talk) 01:24, 5 October 2016 (UTC)!!
- Some of them have their own infoboxes, and/or their own specs lists, so they do have some new content overall. - BilCat (talk) 03:13, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- Specs are essentially irrelevant as the policy is for specs for variants should be written into text (where different). Info boxes similarly are irrelevant as any info in them can be incorporated in the text / variant section.--Petebutt (talk) 15:05, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- Some of them have their own infoboxes, and/or their own specs lists, so they do have some new content overall. - BilCat (talk) 03:13, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- My point is mainly dealing with attribution, in which the user added to the information he copied. He didn't simply copy text from the main article. We both agree that the split articles shouldn't exist, and that's the main point here. - BilCat (talk) 15:23, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- These should all be merged, as none are notable or that unique in and of themselves, and the small amount of added content will easily fit into the parent article. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 23:43, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- My point is mainly dealing with attribution, in which the user added to the information he copied. He didn't simply copy text from the main article. We both agree that the split articles shouldn't exist, and that's the main point here. - BilCat (talk) 15:23, 6 October 2016 (UTC)