Talk:Western betrayal
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 March 2022
Template:Edit extended-protected Section 'Beginning of World War II, 1939' Change: The Polish military envoy to France, general Stanisław Burhardt-Bukacki, upon receiving the text of the message sent by Gamelin, alerted marshal Śmigły: "I received the message by general Gamelin. Please don't believe a single word in the dispatch".[24] The following day, the commander of the French Military Mission to Poland, General Louis Faury, informed the Polish Chief of Staff, General Wacław Stachiewicz, that the planned major offensive on the western front had to be postponed from 17 September to 20 September. On September 17, French divisions were ordered to retreat to their barracks along the Maginot Line, a withdrawal that was completed on October 17.
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Gamelin made it clear to the Supreme Allied War Council that he would not commit to an offensive, even if the Poles held out for two to three months, suggesting that previous guarantees given may have been deliberately misleading to buy the French time for a war on their own terms.[1]
justification: The section currently is partly unsourced (the section on the withdrawal to the Maginot Line) and the quote from Bukacki is more relevant to the Polish response to the perceived betrayal, than evidence of it. Also, the given quote only seems to appear in the Polityka magazine, which itself has no citations, and all other references I could find to this either cite the same Polityka article, or this Wikipedia article. 80.238.115.65 (talk) 22:21, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Your suggested edit doesn't contain all of the (sourced and valid) information present in the prior version. I'll include a citation needed tag for the unsourced parts if it's not there yet, though. If you wish to write a better version that includes all of the information, feel free to include in a comment and tag me, or include in a comment and set the edit request to non-answered again. Thanks for your suggestion. Amadeus22 🙋 🔔 18:39, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 June 2022
Template:Edit extended-protected Change "...including the rise and empowerment of the Third Reich (Nazi Germany), the rise of the Soviet Union (USSR) as a dominant superpower with control of large parts of Europe..." in the lead to
"...including the rise and empowerment of Nazi Germany, the rise of the Soviet Union as a dominant superpower with control of large parts of Europe...".
There's no need to use two names for the same thing when only one would suffice. Rousillon (talk) 18:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Cover-up of Katyn massacre
Strongly suggest to add this section to the main article, about Allied role of cover up of Soviet NKVD massacre of thousands of Polish officers in Katyn in 1940. This is also viewed as a part of Western betrayal in Poland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre#Western_reaction Andrzej1993 (talk) 21:46, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- "This is also viewed as a part of Western betrayal in Poland." Are there sources for this claim? Dimadick (talk) 17:52, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Trump administration's actions towards Ukraine
I do believe that the actions of United States under Donald Trump towards Ukraine in recent months and its proposed recognition of Crimea as part of Russia does constitute a western betrayal. Pikachu3408 (talk) 18:00, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- ↑ CIENCIALA, ANNA M. “POLAND IN BRITISH AND FRENCH POLICY IN 1939: DETERMINATION TO FIGHT—OR AVOID WAR?” The Polish Review, vol. 34, no. 3, University of Illinois Press, 1989, pp. 199–226, http://www.jstor.org/stable/25778439.