Talk:Welsh

Cymru am byth

"Cymru am byth" redirects here. the intro of the article should mention the term -- principle of least astonishment -- Tarquin 11:34 Jan 22, 2003 (UTC)

That redirects to Wales now. Telsa 11:00, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Origin of the verb

"The origin of this usage, however, apparently refers to a past Prince of Wales, who was notorious for not paying his bills. He was, of course, English!" I have been trying to find a source for this since it arrived in the article. So far, I can't. Any suggestions? Telsa 11:00, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

I can't either. The OED just calls it "Of obscure origin"; earliest attestation is mid-19th century. --Angr/ 10:01, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Right, in the absence of a cite, I'm removing it then. For posterity, here was the context:

"The verb to welsh means to swindle by not paying a debt, although some Welsh people consider this usage offensive. The origin of this usage, however, apparently refers to a past Prince of Wales, who was notorious for not paying his bills. He was, of course, English!"

Telsa 18:07, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Ca someone provide a name for this past prince of wales?

Origin of the noun

the word welsch in german means foreigner - presumably the anglo-saxon invaders (of germanic origin) referred to the original britons as foreigners or welsh, a name that stuck with those britons living in what is now Wales