Talk:Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire

Attempt to combine victims by origin country and ethnic/religious affiliation is unclear

"Most of the victims were recent Italian and Jewish immigrants" is confusing. For example, would Italian Jewish women be counted twice? Suggestion that victims should be listed in the article by one classification (e.g. "recent European immigrants"). Lexlex (talk) 07:30, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Don't overthink it The vast majority of Italian immigrants were Catholic and not Jewish. Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:15, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

So the line should be changed to: "Most of the victims were recent Catholic and Jewish immigrants"? Lexlex (talk) 11:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

No, it should not. They were Italian and Jewish, that was their ethnicities, Judaism being both a religion and an ethnicity. Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Do you mean "Italian" used here refers to ethnicity and not place of origin? If so, I would argue it fails WP:Relevance. (e.g. Why not also list their shoe sizes and favorite foods?) Lexlex (talk) 14:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Don't be ridiculous. The wording is accurate and sourced Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:06, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Veep reference

Under Pop Culture references, someone should add:

In Season 6, Episode 1 (Omaha) of Veep, character Salina Myer says "I mean, whose balls did I twerk to end up here in Triangle Shirtwaist offices--I mean seriously, this is the worst place they've ever stuck an ex-president and I am including JFK's coffin." Mbsearles (talk) 18:21, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for that? NekoKatsun (nyaa) 21:37, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

I watched it today and re-ran it until I got the words exactly right. But I don't have anything I can cite. Mbsearles (talk) 00:40, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Doesn't really matter, it's a trivial reference and probably shouldn't be added at all. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:05, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Relevance of owners' ethnicities

What does it add to the article to note the fact that the owners of this facility were both jewish immigrants? Feverbox (talk) 14:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

remarks Blank ; HArris and Max Steuer

All of their revenue went into paying off their celebrity lawyer, and they were sued in early 1912 over their inability to pay a $206 water bill. In 1914 the two were caught sewing fraudulent labels into their shirtwaists that claimed the clothes had been made under sound conditions. Max Blanck continued in the garment industry several years after the fire. He was indicted on charges of grand larcey in April 1922 and convicted in December 1923. He was sentenced to 6 months to 3 years in state prison. Blanck changed his name to Norman M Blanc and died in California on July 10, 1942; Harris (who had married a cousin of Blanck's wife ) died in 1954. Both are buried in Hollywood Forever Cemetery Los ANgeles California. Their Lawyer died in 1940. Howland666666 (talk) 23:21, 13 June 2025 (UTC)