Talk:Thai Chinese
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The current version of this article contains this passage:
- The vast majority of Thai Chinese belong to various southern Chinese dialect groups. Of these, 56 percent are Teochew (also commonly spelled as Teochiu), 18 percent Hakka and 11 percent Hainanese. The Cantonese, Fuzhounese, Henghua and Hokkien each constitute eight percent of the Chinese population and three percent belong to other Chinese dialect groups.
56 + 18 + 11 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 3 = 120%, but how can there be 20% more than all Thai Chinese? -- please fix! 98.123.38.211 (talk) 03:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- The passage originally read:
Later edits messed up the figures. But I'm more concerned about the source of these numbers. The book source later attached to the statement doesn't actually contain these numbers. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:40, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Of these, 56% are Teochew, 16% Hakka and 11% Hainanese. The Cantonese and Hokkien constitute 7% of the Chinese population each, and 3% belong to other Chinese dialect groups.
Clarity of information
What does this article want to talk about? Thai people with some Chinese ancestry Or Thais of Chinese descent or Chinese people in Thailand? Dask0666 (talk) 07:18, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- This article is talking about Chinese people in Thailand that have Thai citizenship. It does include Thai people with Chinese ancestry/Thais of Chinese descent, whether fully or partial Chinese descent. But it does not include Chinese nationals from People's Republic of China. Chinese people generally mix with Thai people due to intermarry with each other as they have shared common customs and the Buddhist religion, that is why they are numbered up to 40% (including of mixed Chinese descent) and comprised of 26 million people. The core number of Thai Chinese itself though, its still around 9 million people or around 14% of the Thai people who are fully of Chinese descent and with Thai citizenship. Pineapplethen (talk) 12:01, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
Reaffirmed 40% of Thais have at least partial Chinese ancestry, Indonesia does not have the biggest overseas Chinese population
The original edit confirmed that 40% of Thais have at least partial ancestry [1], which I restored with a source. Indonesia does not the have the biggest no. 1 overseas Chinese in the world, this is not because of persecution or discrimination, but it is due to the Dutch themselves moving fewer Chinese to Indonesia compared to mass migrations of Chinese in Malaya (modern-day Malaysia). In the 1930 Dutch East Indies census (in which its last territory makes up modern-day Indonesia) there are around 1,233,214 Chinese-Indonesians and in Indonesian 2010 census there are 2,832,510 Chinese-Indonesians.[1][2] In 80 years time, they increased only about 1,599,296 people from 1930 to 2010. How could by 15 years they increased to 10 million (+7.2 million), or 8 million (+5.2 million), its logically impossible since, they only increase around 200,000 per decade. Indonesia remains a largely secular state, why is the number of Chinese-Indonesians lower than Malaysia or Thailand, its because of historical and social factors like the Dutch colonization times, not solely because of discrimination. Just like Chinese Australians or Vietnamese Chinese have lower Chinese population but not discriminated against, same factors are with Chinese-Indonesians. The Statista source isn't reliable to be counted as a source. Thailand will be returned as the country with the largest overseas Chinese communities on this page, with up to 40% (26 million people) of Thais having partial Chinese ancestry.[3] Pineapplethen (talk) 15:44, 7 March 2025 (UTC)