Talk:Ted Stevens

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Latest comment: 25 May 2023 by AlaskaGal in topic NPOV Concerns re: Gravel
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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 13:53, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

NPOV Concerns re: Gravel

I just found a failed verification issue that makes me concerned that this article might have some NPOV issues regarding Gravel. The specific passage is: Template:Tq2

The source cited at the end is an AP article, which supports few of those claims and almost contradicts some of them. It says: Template:Tq2

What was probably meant to be cited is the old Lemann article, which is cited at the end of the paragraph. But even that article is far more equivocal than the Wikipedia text—which is problematic. Lemann never says definitively that Gravel killed the compromise to spite Gravel. He says that's one theory of why Gravel killed the compromise—and he even suggests it was a minority theory: Template:Tq2 To use that source to say, definitively, that Gravel killed the bill to "spit Stevens" raises both WP:NPOV and WP:FRINGE issues.--Jerome Frank Disciple 15:00, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

will reword AlaskaGal~ ^_^ 13:14, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Great work so far!--Jerome Frank Disciple 13:58, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
thank you!!! i'm not too sure what else is missing, but if you spot anything, please point it out! i intend to renominate the article by the 1st of june latest, but i won't rush anything, and if it goes past then, then fair enough. i do think that i'm getting close enough though. i also want to find some more sources on some issues and clean up all those remaining dead links ^^ AlaskaGal~ ^_^ 20:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Every dead link has since been removed, I'll just review the Gravel section now to see if anything else may violate WP:NPOV. AlaskaGal~ ^_^ 21:16, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Great! I do recommend using citation templates where you can—since they're used through most the article, they should probably be used everywhere. (Just look at the other references in the article for examples, you'll usually be relying on {{cite news}} and {{cite web}}, maybe a {{cite book}} or {{cite case}} here or there). Plus, you never want bare URLs.
I've probably been involved enough here that I shouldn't do the second review, but I'm happy to try to chip in and help out as it goes!--Jerome Frank Disciple 15:38, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
alright, ty. i used to use citation templates, no clue when or why i stopped, should get back in the habit, heh ^^ AlaskaGal~ ^_^ 15:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

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