Talk:Suomenlinna

...or Viapori

The name "Viapori" is ancient and not more in use. --193.210.126.66 15:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It is the name used up until 1917-1918, but it is quite well-known and still in other circumstances (I am thinking for example in a local mall, where the different sections have been named after parts of Helsinki, "Viapori" being one of them.) --MoRsE 08:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

much more than the island itself

The island fortifications were the original foundations for the fortress that were expanded under the Russian rule. There are three rings of defence lines around the capital, that included paved roads, artillery placements, trenches and concrete fortifications. Many of these can be found easily today especially at the suburbs of Kontula, Mellunmäki and Kivikko, the latter is full of them. The ring of fortifications were quite impressive in their size and construction. Interesting facts of the construction itself are told in the local history book made of Vartiokylä(reference needed). There were significant amount of chinese POW:s working in the surroundings, which were quite exotic at the time.

http://www.novision.fi/viapori/eavaus.htm (just to get started)

The bombing picture

This is bombing of Bomarsund, not Sveaborg. See the description and the text at the bottom of the picture. However, I admit such an artistic picture might almost as well be about the Sveaborg (the landscape is a bit different, though). Otoomet (talk) 11:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Dry dock

This article (2008-07-19) currently makes no reference to the dry-dock or influx of classic ships that arrives every winter. —Sladen (talk) 11:50, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Church/Lighthouse

The article also doesn't mention the church/lighthouse building—the only one of its kind in the world. —Sladen (talk) 11:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I think actually that the Suomenlinna church deserves its own article, being the only one of its kind makes it inherently notable, and the history is varied enough for encyclopaedic treatement (the frequent changes of denomination of worship for instance, and what happened to the Russian Icons of the Suomenlinna church)... -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 16:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

The name Sveaborg...

...does not mean "Fortress of Svea", it does however mean "fort/castle of Sweden". "Svea-" is an old genitive construction used when making compound words and names. The name Suomenlinna is a paraphrasing of that name.

"Unclear"?

The way I heard the story was that the commander of the fortress took a bribe after having seen a small grouping of Russian soldiers out on the ice by the horizon, manouvering over some days to appear of much larger numbers than they were. This is the sort of embarrassing thing the losing side rather did not happen so they refrain from asking the right questions. But sure, call it "unclear" if you want. I wish I could remember my sources on this, lest the current version in the article be considered accurate or factual, being neither. --92.242.174.183 (talk) 14:20, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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British vs American English

The article was earlier written in British English (eg. "stylise" and "centre" were used), and still uses "centre" in "Nordic Arts Centre" but when the detail about its location was added, it was in American English ("center") and there's at least "defense" as well (instead of "defence" as in British English). Wikipedia's manual of style says articles should use the form of English that was used when the article was created or expanded from a stub if the stub didn't establish a convention, and while in this case it was a stub, it seems like it remained (at least mostly) British English until 2019.

English in Finland generally tends to gravitate more towards British English than American English, at least as far as spelling goes, even if vocabulary is more American... but that shouldn't even be relevant, though, since according to the manual of style, unless there's a good reason or consensus to switch from one variety of English to another, articles should retain the first convention, which for this article was clearly British English.

I don't want to edit it myself because it might be perceived as disruptive, especially in case a consensus is reached that it should actually be in American English. Why that would be, I don't know, but... VHGW (talk) 14:24, 10 June 2022 (UTC)