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Latest comment: 13 May 2025 by GloriousFigure in topic New article Suez Emergency
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Suggestion for one of the missing citations

I would suggest using the following citation for the aftermath section of this article: Yaqub, Salim. Containing Arab Nationalism: The Eisenhower Doctrine and the Middle East. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2004.

ATTN: Someone with editing priveledges.

User:DrSangChi (talk) 12:14PM, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 February 2025

Template:Edit extended-protected Making the result a political victory for Egypt XhxguyxfuzffzzfuiD (talk) 07:40, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:X mark.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the Template:Tlx template. Cannolis (talk) 07:47, 2 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
No per WP:RESULT. We don't add qualifiers such as political victory. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 5 March 2025

Template:Edit extended-protected Description of suggested change:

The page says this:

"The British denied the Russian Baltic Fleet use of the canal after the Dogger Bank incident and forced it to steam around the Cape of Good Hope in Africa, giving the Imperial Japanese Armed Forces time to consolidate their position."

But the actual Dogger Bank incident page first doesn't list anything about a denial, secondly, part of the Russian fleet did go through the Suez canal, so there couldn't have been a denial, because if there was, then how did part of the fleet use the Suez canal anyway?

Diff: Template:TextDiff Killerdark (talk) 05:36, 5 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Aydoh8[contribs] 14:12, 5 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

New article Suez Emergency

Just a heads-up: editors may want to have a look at the recently-created Suez Emergency article. Not my area of interest necessarily, but this looks like a potentially inappropriate or confusing WP:CONTENTFORK. R Prazeres (talk) 00:06, 30 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

The Suez Emergency article is poorly sourced (largely unsourced) with this news article referring to the increased garrisoning by the British as the Suez Emergency. Searching Google Scholar, it would appear that Suez Emergency is used synonymously for the Suez Crisis and I am not seeing sources referring to 1951-1956 events as the Suez Emergency. I also made several searches, finding Kingdom of Egypt#Suez Emergency but this section was created here on the basis of the previously linked news article. Comparing Suez Emergency with that section, I am not seeing that the new article is a reasonable or necessary content fork. I am not seeing the title as a common or recognisable name for these event or that there is sufficient coverage in good quality sources that would make this independently notable. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:00, 8 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, I can't find any justification for it, per Cinderella157's points. At minimum, the title is clearly a synonym of, or far too similar to, the topic of Suez Crisis and it should redirect here. As for the article itself, even on a quick look the scope is confusing and seems artificial: a few unsourced and poorly-explained events, along with mention of some major events that already have their own articles, and no mention of the Suez war of 1956 despite the obvious relevance. The declaration of "Egyptian victory" in the infobox seems to be a reference to the 1954 Anglo-Egyptian evacuation agreement concerning the withdrawal of the British, but that has its own article now which could be improved (and might merit further clarification in the "Background" section here). There are plenty of existing articles that cover historical events leading up to 1956, including Suez Crisis, Kingdom of Egypt, and History of republican Egypt; it would be better to improve these with proper citations before considering a split or spin-off, if indeed the latter is ever needed.
Since the article is still new, and given the concerns above, I'm going to be bold and blank and redirect it here. Due to the lack of citations for any new information, I don't see that any material can be usefully transferred elsewhere as is. If there's another solution, feel free to discuss it here.
I would encourage the article's creator, GloriousFigure, to read the points above and work with other editors here first if they want to re-create a similar article. R Prazeres (talk) 17:11, 13 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Too similar to the Suez crisis? You need to revise your history man sorry. The Suez crisis was an invasion of Egypt by UK, France and Israel while the Suez Emergency was an insurgency following the Wafdist government’s abrogation of the 1936 treaty. As long as I added references, there shall be no debates. GloriousFigure (talk) 20:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I literally added a BBC source, are you even reading the sources. 🤦‍♂️ GloriousFigure (talk) 20:16, 13 May 2025 (UTC)Reply