Talk:Stolen Generations
<templatestyles src="Module:Message box/tmbox.css"/><templatestyles src="Talk header/styles.css" />
| This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Stolen Generations Template:Pagetype. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
| Template:Find sources |
| Archives: Template:Comma separated entries<templatestyles src="Template:Tooltip/styles.css" />Auto-archiving periodScript error: No such module "Check for unknown parameters".: Template:Human readable duration File:Information icon4.svg |
Script error: No such module "Check for unknown parameters".Script error: No such module "Check for deprecated parameters".
Script error: No such module "Unsubst". Template:TmboxTemplate:Talk other Template:On this day Template:WikiProject banner shell User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis Template:Split article Template:Refideas
How did it end?
Needs a para on what happened (in the 1960s) to make it end. 120.16.26.193 (talk) 02:32, 4 April 2018 (UTC)MBG
- That's actually a really good question. I haven't seen the answer formally documented anywhere. It was probably all part of the progressive mood of the country at the time. This mood was shown in the Australian referendum, 1967 (Aboriginals), which was one of the few constitutional amendments ever passed in Australia, and it was passed overwhelmingly. It gave the federal government power to make legislation for Aboriginal people (it had previously been exclusively state government business), and said we would count Aboriginal people in the census. Without knowing for sure, I would guess that the state governments finally saw the light. I would love to hear from others on this. HiLo48 (talk) 03:08, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
- It's been suggested that it's still going on. [1].
Daveosaurus (talk) 06:49, 4 April 2018 (UTC)One of the first reactions people have to the film is, ‘oh my God, I had no idea this was happening. How can this still be happening, I thought this issue had been resolved.’
- Chronology progressed something like this:
- the government perpetrated the Stolen Generations;
- the government made an Apology to Australia's Indigenous peoples for stealing children;
- the government simultaneously initiated the Northern Territory National Emergency Response to steal more children;
- as of 30th June 2020, 79% of Indigenous children in care live permanently away from their birth parents and 85% aren't reunited with their families.
- so yes, "It's been suggested that it's still going on" seems right on the money there. I would suggest an "Aftermath" section be added to the article which highlights how little official policy changes have changed actual attitudes and interventions. While we're at it, adding the above context to each of the mentioned articles (and not just a bare mention in the See Also list) would improve their coverage too. 49.195.32.54 (talk) 06:02, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Chronology progressed something like this:
- It's been suggested that it's still going on. [1].
- The STOLEN GENERATION continues, especially in the Australian state of Victoria 2403:5803:7E2B:7900:F40B:4AC7:BC27:E68E (talk) 05:47, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- That requires a little further explanation. HiLo48 (talk) 06:19, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Have a look at the linked forced adoption article as the history of both are linked. by the 60's the idea of foced adoption had been removed from popular opinion and the practice stopped. as it no longer occured for white people they could not argue its inclusion for the aboriginal tribes also.101.167.226.85 (talk) 22:56, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
- That's NOT an example of something still going on. HiLo48 (talk) 06:19, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
"Between one in ten and one in three children"
Although it makes perfect sense mathematically, using "between" in this way seems awkward. I might have expected instead something more like: "At least one in ten, but perhaps as many as one in three children ..." Toddcs (talk) 22:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Inconsistent terminology
The terms used to refer to the affected children shifts around a lot in this article. Some of that seems due to direct quotes from different people or documents, but I noticed one point in the "policy in practice" section, which isn't clearly indicated as a quote, within the same sentence it uses both "half-caste" and "mixed-race" to refer to the same category of children. 2600:100A:B1E3:F50E:4C94:93A3:9918:5307 (talk) 06:04, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- As I read it, "half-caste" is only used in quotations or what are effectively quotations. It would be wrong to use it today outside quotations. "Mixed-race" is a term that wouldn't work to describe something happening in Australia today, but it's correct in the context of this article, where race was still a recognised concept for the duration of the stolen generations. HiLo48 (talk) 06:32, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Dicuss the term stolen generation and discuss the role and impact that pseudoscientific such as social darwism and eugenics have on the aborgine population of Australia
Ideas of race Australia 165.0.72.92 (talk) 17:35, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds like you are asking for someone to write a school assignment for you? If so, this isn't the place for this request. Article talkpages are for discussing improvements to the article text, not requesting general commentary on the article topic. -- Euryalus (talk) 20:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- There is the reference desk though where you can ask questions. Wallby (talk) 08:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
There seems to be no information on this page about how this was advertised to Australian citizens at the time
I.e. was there propaganda? There seems to be leftover news advertisements.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/fb-5948969/THE-STOLEN-GENERATIONS.html
Were there Australian citizens of the time who thought "what they were doing was helping?". This perspective seems to be missing from the article. Wallby (talk) 08:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- As maybe a ten year old in Australia in the 1950s, my parents told me how nice we white people were being to Aboriginal kids by putting them in special schools where they could learn to be housemaids and farm workers. I won't try to interpret that for you, except to say that, as far as most people were concerned, it was a well intentioned program. HiLo48 (talk) 09:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)