Talk:Snoring

Removing

I'm removing the remark about divorce being the only viable solution to a snoring partner. Although it provided some humour, it didn't serve as a positive contribution. 86.147.227.213 (talk) 20:37, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Somnoplasty/Somniplasty

Somniplasty is an orphan article and just links to a BBC article from 1998 and googling the term gets results referring back to Wikipedia or pages with computer compiled terms. The procedure described on the page sounds like what is referred to by Somnoplasty.--209.7.195.158 (talk) 18:02, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the comments "Snoring As A Defense Mechanism" and "Evolutionary Background"

Good article for the area of the topic that it covers! Regarding the talk page topics "Snoring As A Defense Mechanism" and "Evolutionary Background", I would also like to see the article enlarged to include topics about snoring as it relates to defense against predators in our evolution, snoring in other species (very common in dogs and cats, and pigs snore just like humans), non-placental mammals (do kangaroos and duckbill platypuses snore?) and non-mammalian snoring, and even to ideas about what possible benefits snoring has for molding family structure by making people sleep separately from each other (such as snoring as a form of birth control, for example after not being able to escape from my partner's snoring all night long I most certainly did not feel romantically inclined). There has got to be a reason why such a supremely annoying, even life-threatening (via sleep apnea auto-strangulation or being strangled by an enraged sleep-deprived family member), thing exists! Linstrum (talk) 13:27, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

What Doctors might ask first:

Who is most affected by the snoring? This is often the bedpartner, especially with simple snoring. Is the snoring personally disturbing and/or the relationship? If so, how much? Since when is the snoring a problem or worry? Has the person recently gained weight or increased the collar size? Alcohol consumption and its possible influence on the snoring. Intake of sleeping pills and other sedatives. Does the sleeping position, especially lying flat on the back, influence the snoring? A history of nasal problems which could refer to nasal polyps Obstructive sleep apnoea

What your doctor might check out first:

Measurement of Body Mass Index (BMI) and collar size since many patients with sleep apnoea measure a BMI >30 and above 43 cm collar size. Examination of nose for polyps or septal deviation. The crowding and size of tonsils and uvula. A receding lower jaw and the crowding and quality of teeth. Daytime sleepiness. Thyroid functioning.

Smoking "clogs the throat"

What, like bacon grease? Just a weird parenthetical that I was curious to learn more about -- not sure if the revert to the citation-needed tag there was because my stupid edit message made it seem like I was adding this self-evidently absurd claim, or because the claim is obviously true and I'm just being dense. 2600:1702:6D1:28B0:DDB0:105C:EDBE:C48D (talk) 17:11, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

What to do to stop it

How should I treat it? Sigmakratos (talk) 18:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Apnea–hypopnea index less than 5 per hour

Less than five what? Events? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

According to our article on the Apnea-hypopnea index there are no "units", it is just a score generated by counting the number of events of apnea or hypopnea per hour. I'll add the word "events". Moribundum (talk) 07:42, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

File:Yes check.svg Done Moribundum (talk) 13:24, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:22, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

From the clinical history alone

"It is not possible to distinguish primary snoring from obstructive sleep apnea from the clinical history alone":

I'm not sure this is true. You should sometimes be able to rule out primary snoring in some severe OSA cases, through an observation that the person isn't able to inhale and therefore is having a sleep apnea event. Is this meant to say something like "OSA can't be ruled out from clinical history alone"? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:40, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I see your point and agree. Maybe they mean that it is not possible to get official diagnosis without sleep study / polysomnography? This is what the source says:

Template:Tq Moribundum (talk) 08:17, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I guess per one set of diagnostic criteria for primary snoring, "Diagnostic investigations such as polysomnography do not show another sleep related respiratory disorder." Therefore it is not enough to just take history. It is necessary to do sleep study which shows AHI < 5 events / hour. Happy for reword. Moribundum (talk) 13:28, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

"To diagnose primary snoring, it is necessary first to rule out all other sleep-related respiratory disorders, which requires an overnight polysomnography test"? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:24, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes happy for that change. Maybe add word "usually requires an overnight polysomnography test" since that is what one source said.

By the way, are these diagnostic criteria considered copy vio? The source Stuck 2019 [1] says they are from ICSD 3 but I couldn't find them anywhere in that manual. Maybe it is related to the fact that they made these criteria themselves, only "based on ICSD 3"

Source:

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Wiki article:

1. Affected individual or sleeping partner reports breath sounds associated with breathing in during sleep.
2. No other sleep disorder that could be causing the snoring.
3. Diagnostic investigations such as polysomnography do not show another sleep related respiratory disorder.

I paraphrased them a lot, but some people seem to get very upset about putting lists of diagnostic criteria. If you follow the wording of the source closely, they say copyvio. If you reword them, they say they are now inaccurate to the source. Moribundum (talk) 18:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I think that's fine. As long as we Wikipedia:Use our own words, copyvio's not usually a problem. The facts can't be copyrighted, only the wording. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:15, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

OK thanks Moribundum (talk) 11:49, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Treatment efficacy and tolerability

Some of the treatments include information about efficacy and tolerability (e.g., "A pillow that was designed to change the position of the head was found to reduce snoring intensity" and "However, CPAP can be uncomfortable, and many people stop using it"). I don't think we should try to add specific statistics, but if something often works, or usually fails, or would worl except people dislike it, it would be nice to see a little more content around that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:48, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately a lot more research is focused on obstructive sleep apnea. Such research may or may not consider snoring as an outcome measure. I think I added whatever I found that was specifically about snoring and not OSA. It may be better not to duplicate content about treatment efficacy that should really be on the OSA article? Moribundum (talk) 07:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I agree. If we don't have sources that mention PS, we can't add the content. If you've already added everything you remember seeing, then there's nothing to be done here. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:26, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Well, the article mainly focuses on primary snoring. But we also discuss how snoring is one of the main symptoms of OSA. But better to keep OSA sources on that article and not here, agree. Moribundum (talk) 18:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

We could add a "see also" link to Treatment section of the OSA article at the top of the treatment section here maybe? There will be much more content about effectiveness and compliance of CPAP there. Moribundum (talk) 18:53, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

We could, but I don't think it's necessary. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

OK, I'll remove Moribundum (talk) 11:48, 28 March 2025 (UTC)