Talk:Ship replica

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Script error: No such module "Banner shell". I just started this article. The featured ships I mainly found through Googling Wikipedia for 'ship replica'. As a result, most ships have a link and most ships are from Anglophone countries and the Netherlands. A general Google is desirable to give it a better balance.

f you put a ship replica here and start an article on it, please give it a link to here. DirkvdM 07:41, 27 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Added the East Indiaman Götheborg --Dahlis 12:00, 2005 September 3 (UTC)
Should "genuine replica" read "generic replica?"--Danorton 23:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Order Ships

As the list is growing I would suggest to rankorder the replicas building dat of the original rather than current location. That way we see what bits of maritime history are now under investigation (e.g. Anc Egypt Ra2; 17th century, a number of VOC ships, etc). And which time periods are not represented. How do you think about that?Arnoutf 12:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps we should order the ship information in a table format; or add a list of ship replicas article. Below my suggestion for such a table. How do you think about this?

Ship name Type Current port Current affiliation Country Affiliation Built Notable for End Remark
Ra II Reed boat Oslo, Norway Bygdøy maritime museum File:Flag of Egypt.svg File:Tutanchamun Maske.jpg app. 4000BC Ancient Egypt merchant. Replica crossed Atlantic, Heyerdahl app. 2000BC Class replica
Olympias Trireme Faliro (near Athens), Greece File:Flag of Greece.svg File:Bust of Pericles.jpg app. 700BC Main warship of ancient Greece app. 400BC Class replica
Lisa von Lübeck Hanseatic cog Lübeck, Germany File:Flag of Germany.svg Hanseatic League app. 1200 Main medieval merchant app. 1500 Class replica
Pinta, Niña and Santa María Caravel Palos de la Frontera, Spain File:Flag of Spain.svg File:Blason Castille Léon.png app. 1490 Columbus 1492 squadron
Matthew Bristol, UK File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg File:Tudor Rose.svg app. 1495 John Cabot's ship to America in 1497
Victoria Seville, Spain File:Flag of Spain.svg File:Flag of New Spain.svg app. 1515 Only survivor of Magellan's 1519–1522 travel
Golden Hind Tudor Galleon (1)London, UK (2)Brixham, UK File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg File:Tudor Rose.svg app. 1575 1577–1580 circumvention
Batavia East Indies Merchant Lelystad, The Netherlands File:Flag of the Netherlands.svg File:VOC-Amsterdam.svg 1628 mutiny 1629 wrecked 1629
Prins Willem East Indies Merchant Den Helder, the Netherlands File:Flag of the Netherlands.svg File:VOC-Amsterdam.svg 1649 sank 1662
Zeven Provinciën Ship of the Line (80 guns) Lelystad, the Netherlands File:Flag of the Netherlands.svg File:Naval Jack of the Netherlands.svg 1665 Flagship of Michiel de Ruyter decommisioned 1694 Under construction
Götheborg East Indies Merchant Gothenburg, Sweden File:Flag of Sweden.svg SOIC app. 1740 sank 1745
Amsterdam East Indies Merchant Amsterdam, the Netherlands Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum File:Flag of the Netherlands.svg File:VOC-Amsterdam.svg 1749 grounded 1749
Surprise/Rose Frigate San Diego, USA San Diego Maritime Museum File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg File:Naval ensign of the United Kingdom.svg 1757 1776 attack New York. Master and Commander scuttled 1779 Renamed Surprise after movie
De Delft[1] Ship of the Line (54 guns) Rotterdam, the Netherlands File:Flag of the Netherlands.svg File:Naval Jack of the Netherlands.svg 1757 Battle of Camperdown sank 1797 Under Construction
Jacobstads Wapen Galleon Jakobstad, Finland File:Flag of Sweden.svg File:Naval Ensign of Sweden.svg app. 1750
Santísima Trinidad Ship of the line (144 guns) Malaga, Spain File:Flag of Spain.svg File:Naval Jack of Spain.svg 1769 battles of Cape St Vincente & Trafalgar sank 1805
Grand Turk Frigate Middlesex, UK File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg File:Naval ensign of the United Kingdom.svg app. 1790 used in Hornblower

PS does anybody know how to center in wikitables and does anybody know how to make a hyperlinked image.Arnoutf 20:36, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for starting to work on this, I hope I may be able to contribute too. One thing to think about -- is it better now to move the list / table to a new page e.g. List of ship replicas as is done with other articles to avoid it becoming overlong ? --mervyn 12:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
May be a good idea; to move it to a list page. In that case we may want to expand the current intro of Ship Replica though. Arnoutf 14:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

What is meant by "Affiliation"? Flag (country) of original vessel, (or of replica)? Also, why do some say "private owner"? I know for a fact that neither Amistad or Lady Washington is owned privately. Pjbflynn 21:02, 17 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

I meant the contracter of the original ship (to show the shift in seapower over the centuries), but to be honest I can see the term is ambiguous, if you have a better idea please feel free to change; or perhapcs even delete the whole column and only leave original country, easier to maintain as well. Arnoutf 21:37, 17 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Bias for renaissance/enlightenment vessels

I think there is a slight bias towards the ships of the 1600–1700's. I will try to add some ships of different era (e.g. Viking longships) to give a more extensive overview of the replcias all over the history of shipping.

e.g. from http://home.online.no/~joeolavl/viking/index.htm

Help is welcome Arnoutf 09:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have a strong suspicion that any such bias in the list will be a result of a bias in the choosing of ships to replicate. There will be more from the era of first European exploration of the oceans and subsequent growth in size. After that, ships got more efficient, but if you want an efficient ship it makes more sense to build a modern one. DirkvdM 07:35, 19 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
True but there are at least several more from the Viking age; didn't have time to chase those so far though. Arnoutf 08:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Order of Ships in new table

I decided to order the ships in the new table format on year of construction rather than Alphabetical (name giving being a fairly arbitrary way of ordering ships). The ordering by building year has several advantages. (1) The development of ship types over time is easily followed byseeing the ship type column evolve. (2) The rise (and fall) of naval powers is easily followed by seeing country flags appear and disappear over time in that column; the same goes for the rise and fall of enterprises. These two bits of (IMHO) interesting information on the flow of history is lost by ordering the ships alphabetically. I think, the small benefit of quick lookup does not weigh against that. Arnoutf 19:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Would seem to be a good idea -- not much point making a list just by ship name, because that can be found from the Category list. (Although at the moment there is no Ship replica category!!!). Though having said that, a simple list A-Z is still useful, because it points up the red links, like the List of museum ships. Another point is to think carefully before you embark on creating an elaborate list -- the more info and formatting in the list, the more difficult it is to maintain and to keep synched with the info in the Ship's own articles. --mervyn 13:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Ark of Noah replica's

On nl:Ark van Johan a new replica of the Ark of Noah is discussed. It also includes a replica in Maryland, USA. Could these be included in this article? Wiki-uk 17:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Would be fine with me, although it is built on conjecture rather than the original plans. Arnoutf 07:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

A couple more Aussie replicas

Brig Amity – in Albany, Western Australia. Buffalo – near Glenelg in Adelaide, South Australia. Adventure World, an amusement park in Perth also has a ride called "Bounty's Revenge". Although how much the ride actually resembles the actual Bounty is up for debate. Gemfyre (talk) 14:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

How could this be missed?

HMB Endevour replica should be added, built Fremantle, Western Australia, launched 1993, home port now Darling Harbour, Sydney, New South Wales. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.107.10 (talk) 10:10, 17 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Why is Endeavour listed twice? I assume only one replica has been built. If no one responds, I will delete the second listing. HowardMorland (talk) 15:49, 29 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Boston Tea Party ships

I've added in the two replica ships now at the Boston Tea Party Museum but I have a dilemma about the flags. Both sailed under there Red Ensign as members of the British Merchany Marine but were both actually owned by American colonial enterprises. What flag do I put in the Country column? Murgatroyd49 (talk) 10:34, 1 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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