Talk:Shia Islam

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2025

Remove the section under “Purity” with the video of Khamenei claiming he spoke to god. This puts Shi’a’s in a bad light. Not all of them believe in Wilayat Al Faqih, which is a controversial Shi’a topic that only followers of Khamenei and Khomeini believe in, and the rest of the Shi’a community differ in opinion about. It’s unnecessary and it is not even mentioned in the section. Please remove it, thank you. 2600:1007:A111:4D4B:5432:D2FF:4F72:4A0A (talk) 04:38, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

File:X mark.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the Template:Tlx template. PianoDan (talk) 17:27, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 March 2025

In the shahada part, it is said that the word "Ali is a friend of Allah" is mentioned in Qur'an 5:55, while in that verse there is no mention of Ali - radiyallahu anha - nor about successor at all. It just said "Your only guardians are Allah, His Messenger, and fellow believers—who establish prayer and pay alms-tax with humility." 5:55. So i think this is a false source to be mentioned. 2400:9800:FE:4343:182E:A1B0:C318:3D3A (talk) 23:57, 20 March 2025 (UTC) thing

The current text doesn't imply that "Ali is a friend of Allah" is mentioned in the Quran. (It's the occasion of revelation that's believed to be connected to Ali in Shia (and some Sunni) exegeses). Albertatiran (talk) 06:17, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

File:X mark.svg Not done: Closing as disputed ApexParagon (talk) 02:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Video of Ali Khamenei (and his claim of "speaking with God")

File:Supreme Leader of Iran Ali Khamenei and the Claim of Speaking with God.webm

Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, and his claim of “speaking with God”

The video was added on two different, seperate times on “Purity” portion of the article. User Albertatiran (a “proud member of the Shi'a Islam task force” as stated on his profile page), is trying to engage in an edit war, as he finds the video “irrelevant”, on a section that specifically brings a quote from Ali Khamenei stating : “… Jews and other Peoples of the Book are not inherently impure, and touching the moisture on their hands does not convey impurity”.

@Albertatiran, is Ali Khamenei a Grand Ayatollah and marja, and is considered the leader of Shia Muslims or not? Oganesson007 (talk) 06:16, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Oganesson007, I don't really appreciate the language you used and the accusations you levelled, but let's move on to the video in question.

First, the transcription is incorrect, judging as a native Farsi speaker. He does not claim that he "spoke with God" in this video. Rather, God spoke through him when he gave his impromptu (but "charming") speech. This is a fairly common figure of speech in Farsi. So, the transcription is literal, incorrect, and most likely politically-motivated against Khamenei. In that case, this article about Shia Islam is not the right place for your political agenda.

Second, it is not clear to me how this video relates at all to purity of non-muslims, which is the topic of this section. I'd be surprised if you can find any reasonable connection there. Albertatiran (talk) 06:40, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Salam. As another native Farsi speaker, I really admire your skills on playing with words, reaching a conclusion and making up your own interpretations. What Khamenei is saying is very straight forward. Regardless, it doesn’t surprise me at all that you (“as a Shi'a Islam task force”, as stated on your profile) label this as a “political” motivation.

Also, I am very interested to know your “correct” description for this video.

In addition, you still have not addressed the question I asked: is the Supreme leader and the Grand Ayatollah of Iran considered the leader for the majority of Shias? Oganesson007 (talk) 20:00, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

(Salam) I think my response was fairly clear. Let's wait for others' input (if any) and see if you can establish a consensus. Albertatiran (talk) 11:54, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

How exactly do you think your response was “clear”, when you have not even answered any of my questions yet:

1) Is the Supreme leader and the Grand Ayatollah of Iran considered the leader for the majority of Shias?

2) Do you see yourself as the “owner” of this article who decides what should or should not be on it? Do you understand that Wikipedia is an open-source model and its core principle is that anyone can contribute, regardless of their background or expertise?

3) Are you trying to hide something by any chance?

You still have not addressed any of these points I have brought up. Oganesson007 (talk) 23:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

This is original research. I have noticed you have put this video in many different places without any single source that explains its inclusion. This does not deal with the issue if the translation is correct or not but simply that you and all other users are not allowed to do original research here. A reliable source that explains the relevance should be put forward. Otherwise all your insertions of it will be dealt with. IRISZOOM (talk) 06:10, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2025

Shiite is incorrect spelling and a disrespectful way of naming a name. I am Shia, and we call it Shia. NOT Shitte !!! Please change Shiite to Shia anywhere in Wikipedia. Ya Imam Mahdi Adrekni (talk) 16:33, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

File:X mark.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the Template:Tlx template. The term only appears to be used once in the body of the article, other than quotes. And it appears to be well sourced. Do you have a source saying that Shiite is not used? meamemg (talk) 17:01, 9 June 2025 (UTC)