Talk:Seven Years' War

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Russia in Infobox

Russia is listed on both sides, both saying until 1672, but the left side for some reason has a note attached reading 'from 1672'. From my little research into this war it seems that Russia stopped fighting entirely in 1672, but I think the infobox should be clearer. Wikifan153 (talk) 09:30, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Yeah, who did that?
I would remove Russia from the Anglo-Prussian side entirely. Remsense 09:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Mughals and Maratha

Both were involved in many wars with french [1] PranshavAnandPatel (talk) 18:32, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Infoboxes are not meant to be an exhaustive listing—their purpose is to provide key information at a glance, summarizing what the article itself says. As it stands, the actual article does not mention the Maratha once, so what is the infobox meant to be summarizing? That in turn reflects that their involvement in this conflict was comparatively very minor, so they should not be mentioned in the infobox at all. This is an encyclopedia article for a general audience. Remsense 18:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also, never cite another Wikipedia article as a source: that is circular. Remsense 18:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
it does mention Marathas in the article.
There were 3,000 maratha troops PranshavAnandPatel (talk) 18:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
This article does not mention the Maratha once. Remsense 18:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
The contribution of the other two confederacies was also minor PranshavAnandPatel (talk) 18:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
But they're mentioned in the article. Feel free to make a case for their removal here based on what the sources say. Remsense 18:45, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

General and cited references section needs to be divided

The Template:Section link contains both sources for shortened footnotes, which often go into a Sources section & citations that are not used for footnotes almost always go into the Further reading section, which is one of the standard appendices and footers. Furthermore, most of the uncited sources are not in a citation template such as Template:Tl, whereas the cited sources are. I intend to separate the two grouping & put the un-templated citations into templates, as per WP:CITEVAR: Template:Tqb Peaceray (talk) 16:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Belligerents

A lot of smaller HRE states (e.g. Modena, Hessen-Darmstadt, Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel, Schaumburg-Lippe) are excluded in the infobox. I'd understand excluding them if they were just deemed too minor in contributions and clogging it up, but the Iroquois and Wabanaki are also in there despite being utterly marginal in comparison to, say, Tuscany (which sent 4,500 troops to fight for the Emperor in Germany in 1757-1758 and smaller contingents thereafter).--Nihlus1 (talk) 17:00, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Given the infobox is a summary of the article body, it only makes sense to consider mentioning belligerents who appear (cited) in the article itself. That's the reason—of course, the less an infobox contains the better it serves its purpose—it's likely at least a few others listed are undue. Remsense ‥  17:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
I think it would make most sense to just have an "...and others" cutoff that links to a point in the article where the minor belligerents like Hesse and the Wabanaki are listed (like e.g. the World War I page), because there are lot the article doesn't mention. Thoughts?--Nihlus1 (talk) 19:08, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
I tend to like that approach! I say go for it. Remsense ‥  19:15, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply