Talk:Scouting in New Jersey

Out of date

This list is out of date and needs to be updated. --ZeWrestler|Talk 19:51, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Merges

Mortimer L. Schiff Scout Reservation

Mortimer L. Schiff Scout Reservation

• Oppose -evrik 19:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose - the Schiff Reservation is a national entity, not a state or council one. The New Jersey entry doesn't talk about other national entities (like the national office) having been in that state, so why talk about Schiff? Rick Smith 21:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Frank Gray

Frank Fellows Gray

• Merge If this isn't merged, it'll get speedied for too little info and non-notable.Rlevse 10:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• Merge per Rlevse. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
• merge per nom. Chris 03:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Sakuwit Lodge 2

Sakuwit Lodge 2

• Oppose --evrik ^(talk) 14:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose – too large to merge --Bwpach 12:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Closed; merge failed --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 14:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Attention tag

Now that Pahaquarra Boy Scout Camp has been merged, it really needs a good cleaning up. Chris 01:14, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Scout Camps

If you're going to include scout camps, Central Jersey also has Yards Creek. --ZeWrestler ^Talk 14:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Historical council information to be folded in

Historical council information to be folded in — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kintetsubuffalo (talk • contribs) 12:05, 20 September 2006

• New Jersey Bound Brook Council 1917 1918
• New Jersey Pleasantville Council 1917 1918
• New Jersey River Edge Council 1917 1918
• New Jersey Union Council 1917 1918
• New Jersey Vineland Council 1917 1918
• New Jersey Weehawken Council 1917 1918
• New Jersey West Hoboken Council 1917 1918
• New Jersey West New York Council 1917 1918
• New Jersey Woodbury Council 1917 1918
• New Jersey Bellville Council 1918
• New Jersey Riverside Council 1918
• New Jersey Camey's Point Council 1917 1919
• New Jersey Hackensack Council 1917 1919
• New Jersey High Bridge Council 1917 1919
• New Jersey Leonia Council 1917 1919
• New Jersey Irvington Council 1917 1920
• New Jersey Bernardsville Council 1919 1921
• New Jersey Central Hudson Council 1919 1921
• New Jersey Ocean City Council 1919 1921
• New Jersey Summit Council 1918 1922
• New Jersey Irvington Council 1922 1923
• New Jersey 361 Tenafly Council 1920 1924 ended 1924
• New Jersey Pleasantville Council 1921 1924
• New Jersey 348 Jamesburg Council 1943 1951 ended 1951
• New Jersey 345 South Orange Council 1917 1919 changed name to Orange Mountain 345 1919
• New Jersey 359 Ridgewood Council 1915 1922 changed name to Ridgewood and Glenrock 359 1922
• New Jersey 339 Englewood Council 1919 1925 changed name to North Bergen County 350 1925
• New Jersey 355 Paterson Council 1915 1927 changed name to Paterson Area 355 1927
• New Jersey 333 Bloomfield Council 1917 1929 merged into Bloomfield-Nutley 333 1929
• New Jersey 334 Caldwell Council 1918 1929 changed name to Caldwell 820 1929
• New Jersey 340 Glen Ridge Council 1912 1929 changed name to Glen Ridge 821 1929
• New Jersey 352 Nutley Council 1917 1929 merged into Bloomfield-Nutley 333 1929
• New Jersey 346 Montclair Council 1913 1931 changed name to Eagle Rock 346 1931
• New Jersey 820 Caldwell Council 1929 1931 merged into Montclair 346 1931
• New Jersey 821 Glen Ridge Council 1929 1931 merged into Montclair 346 1931
• New Jersey 337 East Orange Council 1915 1933 merged into Oranges and Maplewood Area 337 1933
• New Jersey 345 Orange Mountain Council 1919 1933 merged into Oranges and Maplewood Area 337 1933
• New Jersey 349 Newark Council 1915 1933 changed name to Robert Treat 349 1933
• New Jersey 353 Orange Council 1917 1933 merged into Oranges and Maplewood Area 337 1933
• New Jersey 363 West Orange Council 1917 1933 merged into Oranges and Maplewood Area 337 1933
• New Jersey 333 Bloomfield-Nutley Council 1929 1935 changed name to Tamarack 333 1935
• New Jersey 360 South Bergen County Council 1919 1932 merged into Tamarack 333 1935
• New Jersey 341 Hoboken Council 1921 1936 merged into Hudson 342 1936
• New Jersey 342 Jersey City Council 1918 1936 merged into Hudson 342 1936
• New Jersey 351 North Hudson Council 1919 1936 changed name to Alexander Hamilton 351 1936
• New Jersey 354 Passaic Council 1918 1939 changed name to Aheka 354 1939
• New Jersey 355 Paterson Area Council 1927 1942 changed name to Alhtaha 355 1942
• New Jersey 337 Oranges and Maplewood Area Council 1933 1949 changed name to Orange Mountain 337 1949
• New Jersey 342 Hudson Council 1937 1968 merged into Hudson-Hamilton 348 1968
• New Jersey 351 Alexander Hamilton Council 1937 1968 merged into Hudson-Hamilton 348 1968
• New Jersey 350 North Bergen County Council 1921 1969 changed name to Bergen 350 1969
• New Jersey 354 Aheka Council 1939 1972 merged into Passaic Valley 353 1972
• New Jersey 355 Alhtaha Council 1942 1972 merged into Passaic Valley 353 1972
• New Jersey 337 Orange Mountain Council 1949 1976 merged into Essex 336 1976
• New Jersey 346 Eagle Rock Council 1931 1976 merged into Essex 336 1976
• New Jersey 349 Robert Treat Council 1933 1976 merged into Essex 336 1976
• New Jersey 333 Tamarack Council 1935 1986 1/2 merged into Essex 336 1986
• New Jersey 333 Tamarack Council 1935 1986 1/2 merged into Bergen 350 1986
• New Jersey 332 Bayonne Council 1918 1993 February 1 merged into Hudson Liberty 348 1993 February 1
• New Jersey 348 Hudson-Hamilton Council 1968 1993 February 1 merged into Hudson Liberty 348 1993 February 1
• New Jersey 359 Ridgewood-Glen Rock Council 1922 1997 August 1 merged into Bergen 350 1997 August 1
• New Jersey 336 Essex Council 1976 1998 December 31 merged into Northern New Jersey 1998 December 31
• New Jersey 348 Hudson Liberty Council 1993 February 1 1998 December 31 merged into Northern New Jersey 1998 December 31
• New Jersey 350 Bergen Council 1969 1998 December 31 merged into Northern New Jersey 1998 December 31
• New Jersey 353 Passaic Valley Council 1973 1998 December 31 merged into Northern New Jersey 1998 December 31
• New Jersey 333 Northern New Jersey Council 1999 January 1
• New Jersey 335 Camden Council 1915 1921 changed name to Camden County 335 1921
• New Jersey 336 Cumberland County Council 1919 1944 changed name to South Jersey 336 1944
• New Jersey 336 South Jersey Council 1944 1967 merged into Southern New Jersey 334 1967
• New Jersey 678 Gloucester-Salem Council 1924 1967 merged into Southern New Jersey 334 1967
• New Jersey 335 Camden County Council 1921 1998 merged into Southern New Jersey 334 1998
• New Jersey 334 Southern New Jersey Council 1967
• New Jersey 331 Atlantic City Council 1918 1926 changed name to Atlantic Area 331 1926
• New Jersey 339 Lenape Area Council 1929 1932 merged into Atlantic Area 331 1932
• New Jersey 331 Atlantic Area Council 1926 1992 June 1 merged into Jersey Shore 341 1992 June 1
• New Jersey 341 Ocean County Council 1940 1992 June 1 merged into Jersey Shore 341 1992 June 1
• New Jersey 341 Jersey Shore Council 1992 June 1
• New Jersey 347 Monmouth County Council 1916 1928 changed name to Monmouth 347 1928
• New Jersey 347 Monmouth Council 1928 1937 changed name to Monmouth-Ocean 347 1937
• New Jersey 347 Monmouth-Ocean Council 1937 1940 changed name to Monmouth 347 1940
• New Jersey 347 Monmouth Council 1940
• New Jersey 357 Princeton Council 1918 1925 merged into Trenton Area 362 1925
• New Jersey 362 Trenton Council 1915 1925 merged into Trenton Area 362 1925
• New Jersey 362 Trenton Area Council 1925 1926 changed name to Trenton-Mercer Area 362 1926
• New Jersey 356 Perth Amboy Council 1919 1927 changed name to Raritan 356 1927
• New Jersey 344 New Brunswick Council 1916 1929 changed name to Middlesex 344 1929
• New Jersey 362 Trenton-Mercer Area Council 1926 1937 changed name to George Washington 362 1937
• New Jersey 344 Middlesex Council 1929 1969 merged into Thomas A. Edison 352 1969
• New Jersey 356 Raritan Council 1927 1969 merged into Thomas A. Edison 352 1969
• New Jersey 352 Thomas A. Edison Council 1969 1999 January 1 merged into Central New Jersey 1999 January 1
• New Jersey 362 George Washington Council 1937 1999 January 1 merged into Central New Jersey 1999 January 1
• New Jersey 352 Central New Jersey Council 1999
• New Jersey Central Union Council 1919 1922 merged into Plainfield 358 1925
• New Jersey 343 Madison Council 1919 1924 merged into Morris County 343 1924
• New Jersey 348 Morristown Council 1917 1924 merged into Morris County 343 1924
• New Jersey 343 Morris County Council 1924 1925 changed name to Morris and Sussex Area 343 1925
• New Jersey 358 Plainfield Council 1915 1926 changed name to Watchung Area 358 1926
• New Jersey 338 Elizabeth Council 1916 1928 changed name to Union 338 1928
• New Jersey 343 Morris and Sussex Area Council 1925 1928 changed name to Morris Area 343 1928
• New Jersey 776 Tok-Hok-Nok Council 1927 1931 merged into Morris Area 343 1935
• New Jersey 343 Morris Area Council 1928 1936 changed name to Morris-Sussex 343 1936
• New Jersey 338 Union Council 1928 1980 merged into Watchung Area 358 1980
• New Jersey 343 Morris-Sussex Council 1936 1999 July 1 merged into Patriots Path 1999 July 1
• New Jersey 358 Watchung Area Council 1926 1999 July 1 merged into Patriots Path 1999 July 1
• New Jersey 358 Patriots Path Council 1999
• New Jersey Burlington Council 1919 1924
• New Jersey 690 Burlington County Council 1925

Northern New Jersey Council

Template:Ping about this edit at Northern New Jersey Council, www.angelfire.com/tx6/patch/cspbook.html is used a reference on more than 100 articles. It is the authoritative source on the history of the councils. Refer to the section above. --evrik ^(talk) 02:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

So, because more than 100 articles are using the same source, that means it's a WP:RS? What makes the author(s) authoritative? WP:RSSELF says Template:Tq. How does this qualify? -- RoySmith (talk) 03:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

You said you were a scout, right? Did you ever collect CSPs? Up to 2003 this was the authoritative resource on all the councils that had been founded and closed by the BSA. As a tool to the patch traders, they compiled from BSA sources all the councils. There are a couple of others works like this (look here: List_of_defunct_councils_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)#Notes). --evrik ^(talk) 03:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I was a scout. I learned many things which have served me well my entire life. Never got into patch trading, however. But, that's not really the issue. The issue is whether this is a RS. I get that the community of patch traders accept it as such, but enwiki has higher standards. I'm going to ask at WP:RSN to see what folks there think. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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