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Pronunciation

The pronunciation /səˈʃiːmiː/ ('suh-SHEE-mee') is an English distortion of the original Japanese, based on how it's rendered in Latin letters. In Japanese it's the 'a' that has the stress, and the first 'i' is barely heard ('SASH-mee'). Of course it's up to English-speakers how they want to pronounce it in English, but the way the pronunciation is presented here - right after the Japanese letters - implies that this is the correct Japanese way to say it. The letters 'i' and 'u' often become inaudible in Japanese, but English-speakers tend to put the stress on them. Another common example is pronouncing 'tempura' as 'tem-POO-rah', which in Japanese sounds more like 'TEMP-ra'.213.127.210.95 (talk) 18:35, 29 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Intertwine Group Review

We believe this article provides some good useful information about Sashimi, including some great etymology into the Japanese origin of Sashimi. There could have been more written in the lead section to make it more clear to the reader - with more citations and references, there is only one line before they break out into different sections. The viewpoints regarding the health and safety seem biased and have a strong tone leaning towards one direction, rather than a neutral view presenting both sides of the story. All the information in the origin needs a citation. It could be taken down since it doesn't have a source. Not that its incorrect, but there's nothing for anyone to go off of other than it's an assumptive definition In the "Origin" section of the article, there needs to be a citation inserted for "Sashimi-grade" as well as a hyperlink if possible because it is a term used elsewhere which the reader could benefit from, and there are specific guidelines for what is counted as Sashimi grade. In terms of citations, in order to make this a more robust article that is substantial in evidence, there needs to be some work done. Although the citations work, they are limited, and redundant. The citations also seem heavily web-based, making them less likely to be peer-reviewed, which might affect the credibility of the article. The section about preparation seems too close to the cited source, so this problem might exist elsewhere as well. Cra2148643 (talk) 20:32, 8 October 2017 (UTC) Claremaier (talk) 20:33, 8 October 2017 (UTC) Pn612 (talk) 20:32, 8 October 2017 (UTC) Yunye2017 (talk) 21:02, 8 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Not italicized

Per MOS:FOREIGNITALIC, it appears to now be a word in English ([1]) so not italicized. seefooddiet (talk) 22:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sashimi as course in formal Japanese meal

Hi User:Imaginatorium, several years ago you added a "dubious - discuss" tag to the claim: "Sashimi is often the first course in a formal Japanese meal, but it can also be the main course, presented with rice and miso soup in separate bowls." since Japanese meals do not have "courses".

I was unable to easily find a source that names Sashimi as a main course but I did find that Mukōzuke is a sashimi course in Kaiseki which is a traditional multi-course Japanese dinner.

Do you think it's acceptable to remove the information about it sometimes being a main course and replacing it with the information that sashimi is a course in Kaiseki? Parcynthia (talk) 10:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

In Japanese, コース料理 generally refers to a "western" meal - particularly French cuisine say - which is served as a sequence of courses. But in general Japanese eating structure (or whatever a neat term is), there is no concept of "course". Very often sashimi might arrive near the beginning, but along with all sorts of other dishes, from which one takes whatever takes one's fancy. (Actually a better word than "structure" would be "non-structure".) I do not think it is helpful to claim that sashimi is a "course" in kaiseki either, though this is a bit outside my personal experience. The "main course" claim is equally meaningless, but probably is an attempt to refer to 刺身定食, a "sashimi set meal" in an everyday restaurant, which arrives in one go on a tray, consisting of a dish of sashimi, bowl of rice, misoshiru, and one or two tidbits. As always there is tension between wanting to use familiar words which do not really say anything, or getting too complicated by actually trying to explain how it works. Incidentally, my comment seems to have disappeared - where did you find it? Imaginatorium (talk) 12:43, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi, I edited out the instances where sashimi was referred to as a course and removed the dubious tag. Feel free to check the edit and change it if you disagree.
As far as your comment goes, I found no such thing and am not sure if you left one. I checked in the edit history to see who added the dubious tag because I wanted a second opinion and that is how I found you. Parcynthia (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)Reply