Talk:Salt Lake City

Infobox photo

File:Salt Lake City montage 9 June 2011.jpg

I know this was brought up about a year ago, but was never changed, and I'm guessing that's because not enough editors liked the montages that had been created. I recently made this montage (<--), and was wondering if we think it's good enough to be used in the article's infobox? If not are there changes that would make it better? It would be nice if we could get an updated image of the skyline from the same location as the top photo (looks like it was taken at about the 600 North I-15 exit). I just don't live around SLC, or I would do it.--Mangoman88 (talk) 08:04, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

You are using photos that are copyright under the Creative Commons 3.0 license requiring attribution. However, not attribution is given to the original owner. Why not?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.223.210.64 (talk) 12:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Attribution is given on the file description page.--Mangoman88 (talk) 19:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Infobox - official name of city

"City of Salt Lake City" - that doesn't read well at all! Can't we change it to "City of Salt Lake"? The NYC wiki page doesn't say "City of New York City"... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.142.11 (talk) 00:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Problem is, that's the official name. Take it up with the city council. Ntsimp (talk) 00:32, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

error in population facts

There is apparently an error for Salt Lake City's listed urban, or metro population. "Metro" population includes "Urban" population, so it is impossible for Metro to be smaller than Urban.

current listed info:

Population (2011) • Urban 2,328,299 • Metro 1,145,905 (48th in U.S.)

Leon K. 72.187.229.156 (talk) 19:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Correct. 1,145,905 population in Salt Lake City metropolitan area on July 1, 2011 estimate. I don't know what is urban doesn't have 2011 estimate. --Rossdegenstein (talk) 23:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Air pollution

Air quality is a local issue of substantial importance. We briefly mention the smog seen during winter inversions, but I feel like it's a widely enough reported topic to merit its own section or subsection. It would probably be wise not to restrict it to inversions either, as severe smog is also present during the summertime.

This year has probably been one with a higher amount of attention focused on the subject, given what I believe were record numbers of red air quality days, but this is an issue that has been written and talked about for a very long time now. We shouldn't have too much trouble gathering news articles and reports. Lethargy (talk) 21:16, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, The New York Times did a story about it in February. Establishing notability should be no problem. Couple that with stories from the local papers and you have enough for a subsection. If you want to write it, I'd be in favor. —Ute in DC (talk) 22:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Demonym

Could someone please cite a reference for the demonym: "Salt Laker"? I was born and raised here in Salt Lake and have several generations of ancestors who have lived here, and I've NEVER heard this term. IMNSHO, I don't think an even moderately accepted demonym even exists for Salt Lake. Mrmcgibby (talk) 22:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Shoshone Name

While the Shoshone name for Salt Lake City is interesting, I'm not convinced that it merits a place on the first line of the article. It is not a commonly used or recognized name, nor is it of particular historical relevance since the city was founded by English speakers. It's a neat bit of trivia, but I don't think it's anything more. There are no doubt names for the city in Norwegian, Tongan, Navajo, etc. as well. I worry that this inclusion on the first line might lead readers unfamiliar with the city to assume that the city's Shoshone name has far greater cultural significance than is actually the case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.39.226.231 (talk) 21:11, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Industrial Banking Center?

The article currently states: "It is the industrial banking center of the United States."

While this claim is sourced, I don't know enough about the subject to determine if the claim is accurate. I found this other article (https://www.cityweekly.net/utah/bank-on-it/Content?oid=2782335), which states Utah is fourth in commercial banking holdings, after CA, MA, and NY. Either way, does someone care to improve the article so the meaning here is more clear to the layman like me? DaRkAgE7_[Talk] 05:32, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Interactive Map

The interactive map of SLC should, in my estimation, the standard for all the major cities on Wikipedia, the state capitals in particular. But how on earth do I go about doing this...‽

kencf0618 (talk) 23:59, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

New infobox photo?

Have there been any thoughts on a new infobox photo for Salt Lake? The current montage is excellent but a bit outdated -- for example, the skyline has expanded quite significantly since 2011. Curious if there has been any thoughts on updating this lately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.226.77.126 (talk) 18:07, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Climate

I teach in Salt Lake County. My high school students keep telling me that "Salt Lake City is in a desert" or "we live in a semi-arid climate." Now I see they are getting this information from the Wikipedia page, as Salt Lake City's page primarily identifies the city as a "cold semi-arid climate BSk."

Salt Lake City has a very similar climate to Van, Türkiye, which is listed as Dsa. When clicking on the Climate of Salt Lake City link, the page primarily identifies the city as Dsa. So I am going to edit the main Salt Lake City page to identify the city as Dsa. In fact, the information on the "Climate of Salt Lake City" page reverses the text as read on the "Salt Lake City" page. The climate page lists the city as Dsa, bordering on BSk, the main page says BSk, bordering on Dsa. I will reverse this error.

Also, Salt Lake City is entirely confined by Salt Lake County. The map of the Köppen Climate Classification of Utah shows Salt Lake County as Dsa, Csa, and Cfa. The article can't state that Salt Lake City is BSk if the map is showing otherwise. 66.85.17.230 (talk) 02:56, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Olympics

Salt Lake is the preferred host for the 2034 Olympics not the 2030 Olympics https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/salt-lake-city-announced-as-preferred-host-for-2034-winter-olympics/ Yomangobro (talk) 11:47, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

The situation looks more complicated than that. Different parts of the article tell of SLC bidding on the 2030 Olympics, or both the 2030 and 2034 Olympics. I don't know what "preferred" means in this context, or whether they've dropped their bid for 2030. Someone with the full picture should give attention to all the mentions of the Olympics in the article and update them and align them as needed. Largoplazo (talk) 13:05, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Mention Lyman Uniform Street Numbering System

"The Lyman Uniform Street Numbering System was developed by Richard R. Lyman, a consulting civil engineer, and has been adopted by Salt Lake City and County, Utah," [1]. Jidanni (talk) 23:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

University of Idaho?

Why is the University of Idaho on one of the images relating to SLC? This looks like a mistake. 103.4.194.206 (talk) 20:55, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

SLC has four official flags which shall be included in the infobox.

As @Magnolia677 has said "one official flag should be fine", I'm sure not. Salt Lake City has four official flags, and the use of multiple official flags on infoboxes also happens in articles like Bavaria (in the exact same way as here) and Bolivia.

"In May 2025, Salt Lake City officially adopted four City flags" source. Guedes (talk) 11:45, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Also, @Magnolia677 also points that "your edits mess up the infobox; please discuss", which is not an issue in the article Bavaria, as it's the 4th time I'm pointing this out and, if it does, I'm pretty sure there's two more seals that shall be added to the article so it won't "mess with the Infobox" no more. Guedes (talk) 11:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

First, the link says those are seals, not flags. Second, "The less information that an infobox contains, the more effectively it serves its purpose", per MOS:IBP. Finally, this article isn't about Bolivia or Bavaria or Belgium. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:29, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

@Magnolia677 This article is about a city with four official flags. Thanks for pointing that out. What's wrong about that? Guedes (talk) 17:27, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

@Magnolia677 keeps reverting my edits, says "please discuss" and don't even try to discuss. Guedes (talk) 02:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Do you have a link to a reliable source that says this city has four official flags? Magnolia677 (talk) 10:13, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

There was pretty widespread media coverage of the change. huffpost, nbcnews, APNews, Deseret News. Here's just a few. I don't have a horse in the infobox question, but the new flags are certainly notable and well sourced. Darkage7_[Talk] 18:12, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

This seems to be a case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT, this is an official flag and there is lots of precedent to add all flags in an infobox, and there is capability to add multiple flags specifically for this circumstance. Coleisforeditor (talk) 19:57, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Strong Agree - Has precedent, no actual policy (I do not believe MOS:IBP applies here, as these are official flags, equal to the flag displayed. Yes, "The less information that an infobox contains, the more effectively it serves its purpose", but this does not mean it should be incomplete), well covered and notable. I don't understand why this is something that must be debated. Coleisforeditor (talk) 17:46, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

This shouldn't be debated at all. I've just stopped editing because there's this clear case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT made by an user that can't be messaged through the talk page of his profile that kept reverting my edits. I actually would really like to know if this isn't WP:VANDAL: someone's actually gaslighting another into stop editing. They've just woke up in a different dimension where the SLC official website doesn't say they "officialy adopted four City flags" and kept reverting my edits because they have an issue with it. I'm not discussing, I just stopped trying to improve an article due to harassment, no idea how should I act in this exact situation. I really gave up. This is disgusting. Guedes (talk) 20:33, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately this wouldn't be a case of WP:VANDAL, "Disruptive editing or stubbornness" is specifically listed as not vandalism. Coleisforeditor (talk) 20:52, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

@Coleisforeditor Fine, everything else should be considered. Guedes (talk) 21:06, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

I have referred this to WP:3O, in case you did not read my notice Coleisforeditor (talk) 21:15, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

I saw it. Your message said "You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to do so, to help this issue come to a resolution" , that's why I came back here in first place. Guedes (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC) Guedes (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

File:Pictogram voting comment.png 3O Response: As there were more than two editors involved in this discussion, I am Template:Respond this request. Please consider going to the dispute resolution noticeboard or submiting an RFC. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 21:30, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

I've added it once again. If @Magnolia677 removes, it's gonna be reverted. Clearly everyone who got to the talk page agrees but them. Guedes (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)