Talk:Rust in Peace
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Background information
Hey L1A1 FAL, while tightening up the Megadeth article, I've omitted the information in the blockquote bellow because I considered it trivial for the main page. What do you think, should we add it here?
In 1987 and 88 the band had just spent several months on tour with Savatage. Mustaine was a long time fan of their lead guitarist Criss Oliva. After supporting Ronnie James Dio on tour with Savatage, Mustaine hired Criss's best friend and long-time guitar tech Dan Campbell for the "So Far So Good So What" tours as his personal guitar tech. Mustaine had mentioned to Campbell that he would like to speak to Oliva about the lead guitar position so Campbell called Oliva and Mustaine offered him the position. Oliva seriously considered the move but declined and remained in Savatage.
Additionally, I've managed to found some excerpts of Mustaine's biography at HarperCollins Publishers, in which he elaborates the themes of a few songs from this album (hint: chapter 13, page 230; "Tornado of Souls" is explained on p. 218). While going through the composition and lyrics, I've noticed that not all songs were covered, so I thought to offer some help.
And one last note, can we reduce the quote about how Mustaine invented the album's title? Seems kinda too long, and the last two sentences are not needed, I believe.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 10:34, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- As for the Megadeth main article stuff, doesn't directly relate to this album.
- I'll have to take a look through the biography then when I get a chance. I read it before for some stuff, but I was working on the TWNAH page at that time, so that's what I was looking for then.
- As for the quote about the album title, either I can take a look at it and trim/paraphrase, or, if you prefer, you could.
- Thanks for pointing that stuff out!--L1A1 FAL (talk) 19:44, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
GA congrats
Good work, all. Binksternet (talk) 21:45, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
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World Leaders Labeling
This question may seem really picky, but why did the author choose to identify the world leaders on the cover artwork from right to left? The more common method is left to right. While this method works here, as a semi-professional Tech Writer I'm just curious when I see something like this. Any information or background is appreciated, thanks. Cheers! FiggazWithAttitude (talk) 20:01, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- File:Yes check.svg Done – listed them left to right. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:28, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Tornado of Souls
It seems that many fans regard Marty Friedman's solo on "Tornado" as one of the best, if not *the* best metal solo of all times, and also one of the hardest to play. Don't know if this is worth mentioning in the article. I find information like this interesting. Would need some sources to back it up of course. Here's where I came across it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4WD015wDCM --BjKa (talk) 08:34, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
John Major?
I could accept the drawing on the cover looking nothing like him, but there's a logic problem with the information given in the citation. The relevant Q&A from Megadeth's official site says it's Major because he was Prime Minister of the UK at the time... except he wasn't. Rust in Peace was released in September 1990 while Margaret Thatcher was still PM. Granted her position was looking unstable, but she wasn't challenged and replaced until November of that year, two months after the album's release. And Major wasn't even confirmed to be a contender until after the first ballot, so there was no reason in September to assume he'd become PM any time soon. Now the Q&A is from almost 17 years after the fact (going by the 09.02.07 timestamp), so whoever was writing the answer perhaps just misremembered or was given faulty information? Are there any quotes from closer to the time about the artwork? I could accept that after the big two, Bush and Gorachev, the other three were just generic men-in-suits, but if they're supposed to be real people, then I have no idea who the guy on the left is meant to be. It looks like Doctor Smith from Lost in Space to me. :D Analog Kid (talk) 18:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm still not entirely convinced by that source. And indeed chronologically it makes little sense that it would be Major. Surely Ed Repka himself would know? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:53, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Greetings,
- I remember this from the time the album came out, Margaret Thatcher was on her way out, and there were strong rumors that Michael Heseltine was poised to step in as PM. The artist therefore added Heseltine to this artwork, but the gamble did not work out since John Major turned out to be the next PM. I have edited the article but came here because there was a "dubious" flag and wanted to clarify this further. EternityofNight (talk) 01:21, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have a source which quotes the artist, Ed Repka? Without one, all of that is original research. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 11:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I've reverted back to "an unidentified British representative" as there is no source to say who the British politician is supposed to be - and it looks nothing like Major, Heseltine, or indeed any other high-ranking british politician of the time. Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- It is definitely Michael Heseltine, and looks exactly like him. EternityofNight (talk) 00:35, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Me arse it does. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:53, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Looks as much like Prince Phillip circa 1990 as it does Heseltine. Rebounds12 (talk) 21:40, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- It is definitely Michael Heseltine, and looks exactly like him. EternityofNight (talk) 00:35, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've reverted back to "an unidentified British representative" as there is no source to say who the British politician is supposed to be - and it looks nothing like Major, Heseltine, or indeed any other high-ranking british politician of the time. Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have a source which quotes the artist, Ed Repka? Without one, all of that is original research. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 11:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Proposal: Unmerge Tornado of Souls
Why was “Tornado of Souls” ever merged? It has one of the most famous solos in all of Metal history. Also, the song’s meaning has been misinterpreted as Dave wanting to murder is his girlfriend, when it’s actually about how Dave was feeling after the end of a toxic relationship. This song should have its own article. KevinML (talk) 02:29, 26 August 2022 (UTC)