Talk:Ring of the Fisherman
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Further suggested change
- "During the ceremony of a Papal Coronation or Papal Inauguration, the Dean of the College of Cardinals slips the ring on the third finger of the new Pope's right hand. Upon a papal death, the ring is ceremonially crushed in the presence of other cardinals by the Camerlengo...."
It is not clear (at reading this section) whether or not the "Dean of the College of Cardinals" is also the same "Camerlengo" that crushes the ring. (Keeping in mind that the Dean of the College of Cardinals is also called "Carmerlengo") My apologies if I am placing this suggestion in the wrong place.
Jerry.zambrano (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:14, 13 December 2009 (UTC).
Breaking of ring custom apparently not discontinued
The article says:
- "This custom [of destroying the ring upon the death of the pope] has not been in practice since at least the papacy of Pope John XXIII."
but the only supporting cite is to [1], which says nothing of the kind. Furthermore, with respect to the current papal resignation, the Washington Post reports:
- "With speculation swirling around his future role, the Vatican’s chief spokesman explicitly stated that Benedict will not influence the election of his successor. And he deepened the sense of finality by saying that Benedict’s papal ring and other powerful emblems of authority will be destroyed after his Feb. 28 abdication — just as they are after a papal death." [2]
I am deleting this text, and noting that the destruction applies to resignations as well as deaths. TJRC (talk) 22:23, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Also:
- Vatican City, Apr 16, 2005 / 12:00 am (CNA).- The Vatican Press Office director denied media reports that the official meetings of the cardinals, known as General Congregations, ended with the discussion of names to succeed Pope John Paul II. . . . During the meeting, Cardinal Camerlengo Eduardo Martinez Somalo destroyed the Fisherman's Ring, which belonged to Pope John Paul II, and the lead seal, as per the Apostolic Constitution Universi Dominici gregis, said [Vatican Press Officer Joaquin] Navarro-Valls. -- Script error: No such module "citation/CS1".
TJRC (talk) 00:14, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Real talk
The Pope's bling, showing his popeitude; also known as "The Big Ring."
Personalized per pope since he ain't yo average pimp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.99.61 (talk) 22:08, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
Inheritance
It is unclear if the ring can be inherited from a Pope to its successor or if it is usually broken at the time of death and then a new copy is given to the each Pope.
The latter hypothesis has multiple sources on the web. It is probably due to the fact that each ring takes the Papal name and thus it can't be reused, as it results by the photo editing shown in the current WP article (source: photo).Philosopher81sp (talk) 18:02, 13 October 2020 (UTC)