Talk:Rene Gagnon

300k

This article, as many of you know, is the cursed 300,000th article to be added to Wikipedia. blankfaze | •• | •• 04:11, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Family

Though I am not the person who is reverting the section about Gagnon's descendants, I must ask the person who keeps adding it why it seems so important. Mr. Gagnon's PUBLIC fame rests entirely on the fact that he was in a famous photograph. That he had children, grandchildren, neices and nephews, etc., is not important or relevant to his fame. It is only important to his family (which I can understand) It will only be edited out yet again by someone. Sir Rhosis 20:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Year of birth

After I reverted a minor act of vandalism—a user changing the year of birth from 1925 to 1919—I checked the two official links on the page, and both the Who's Who in Marine Corps History and the Arlington National Cemetery page give Gagnon's year of birth as 1926. I Samuel Gagnon is desendent of Rene Gagnon a There's another less authoritative page that does show 1925, but going with the better sources, I changed the year in the article to 1926. Does someone have better information? --ShelfSkewed talk 03:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Every book I've read shows March, 1925. Every source makes a point of noting that Franklin Sousley (born Sep. 19, 1925) was the youngest of the flagriasers. I've seen enough sources to state that it was 1925. I'm sure there's a photo of his tombstone out there. His wife was pretty damned involved in making sure exactly what got put on it--what does it say? Sir Rhosis 19:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Hell, there's a pic of it on his page -- it says 1925. I'm gonna revert. Sir Rhosis 19:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Right you are. Which raises the question: Why do the Marine Corps and Arlington sites have it wrong? Oh, well—not our beat. --ShelfSkewed talk 22:15, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Attempt to capitalize on picture's fame

While I have read James Bradley's book and it is evident that Gagnon did wish to use the photo as a point to do better for himself, most of the examples listed in this article are quite lame. He appeared in a government documentary about the flag. Well, so did Hayes and Bradley. He appeared in "Sands of Iwo Jima," well, fuck, so did Hayes and Bradley. The only distinct thing listed is that he was in a Rose Bowl parade. Big deal. So far, mostly he has done publicity things that the other two fellows did, yet they aren't called on it as Gagnon is. Now, James Bradley did mention in "Flags" that Gagnon attempted to put together a lecture tour for himself in 1954. Does anyone else think we should drop the items that also involved Hayes and Bradley and just concentrate on what Gagnon himself did -- the Rose Bowl parade and the speaking tour? Sir Rhosis (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree 100% —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.57.254.159 (talk) 09:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree 100 % also, but someone put it back in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.56.100.26 (talk) 20:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Note from a relative of Rene Gagnon

[This section comes from the main article page (from where it has been deleted), since it is (uncited) original research. Whilst the main article contains many uncited claims, and it's true that the original editor did not exclude other points of view in putting theirs forward, I'm moving this content here, rather than removing the original, largely because this content is not encyclopedic in tone. (I have added several "citation needed" flags to the main article page.) If the points made in this section can be independently established (and I'm somewhat persuaded by the claim that Gagnon did not attempt to profit from his fame any more than Hayes and Bradley did), the main article page should definitely be modified. Mjs (talk) 22:43, 7 July 2010 (UTC)] Template:Quote

Disruptive Edits

Currently, I am engaging in an edit war with YahwehSaves (Talk|Contribs) and their sock puppet 75.79.31.20 (Talk|Contribs) (which is a common occurrence for their disruptive edits, see their contributions page), for their attempts to add unreferenced and uncited information. One issue is the Combat Action Ribbon, which wasn't awarded until 1969. YahwehSaves continues to add this information, among other unreferenced information, to the page, where I promptly revert the edit & invite them to discuss such edits here at the talk page. It is not my intention to keep factual information from being on this page, but I'm unable to find any references to Rene Gagnon being retroactively awarded the CAR. As such, the edits made by YahwehSaves & 75.79.31.20 will be continue to be reverted if unreferenced.Bullmoosebell (talk) 02:22, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Public Law 106-65--October 5, 1999: The Secretary of the Navy may award the Combat Action Ribbon to a member of the Navy or Marine Corps for participation in ground or surface combat (Gagnon) during any period on or after December 7, 1941. The CAR is one of Gagnon's military awards according to the Marine Corps and should be included on his awards list in order of precedence.YahwehSaves (talk) 08:45, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Russian flag raisers

This article is about Rene Gagnon. The two Russian flag raisers from the European Theater of Operations being listed in the "See Also" section here and at any of the other five second American flag raisers article sites is unnecessary. American flags were put up on other Pacific islands that were captured by Marines besides Iwo Jima like Okinawa and those American flag raisers are not recognized. Two flags were raised on Mount Suribachi and an official flag-raising ceremony (raised by 2 Marines) took place at Marine Headquarters near the base of Mt. Suribachi on March 14 supposedly as the 2nd flag on Mt. Suribachi was lowered.YahwehSaves (talk) 23:18, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

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