Talk:Prince Edward Island

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French and Gaelic

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This looks as if the middle was added to

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The insertion

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should come after the rest: presumably this name came into use only after the French were gone.

And this should be done by someone who knows more than I know. —Tamfang (talk) 08:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Native name

What is Native name for the island? Kaiyr (talk) 19:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Mentioned in the Etymology section of the article.  BC  _{talk to me} 20:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Safety in PEI

Talk of crime rate increase or decrease,natural disasters that may occur and how to respond to them. Safety of individuals on the island. 102.91.30.97 (talk) 18:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Top photo

The top photo for the article should be of PEI itself, not the entire country with PEI barely visible. Yellowjournalism (talk) 19:06, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

I mean considering how many surveys of provinces forget that we exist it seems somewhat fitting. LOL Simonm223 (talk) 19:13, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

This got a laugh out of me. The map on this article really is quite comical in context. I support changing it. Kylemahar902 (talk) 19:17, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Joking aside I agree a picture of the island would be better than one of a circle several times the size of the island over our general area of Canada. Simonm223 (talk) 19:18, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

I did find this map on wikimedia commons that might serve. Simonm223 (talk) 19:19, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Oops, tried to edit my comment but guess you were posting at the same time. Upon thought, it should probably stay this way for now for parity with all the other province articles. But this is something to think about. Kylemahar902 (talk) 19:20, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

What about the sea?

Hi, I posted a question about the jurisdiction of the sea around PEI at Talk:Geography of Prince Edward Island. Anyone? Thanks!  →bertux 07:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Government websites are real sources

@Moxy those "non-real sources" you are edit-warring off the page about the Mi'maw name for this island are provincial government sources. Please self-revert. Simonm223 (talk) 12:33, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes the new edition has been contested. You have a source that says this is some sort of official language? These tourist sources don't mention these at all nor are these tourist sources reliable sources. Moxy🍁 12:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

The name is used by the government of PEI on government documentation. Your request that it be an official language is just coming up with excuses to edit-war out the name. Please restore it. Simonm223 (talk) 12:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

No sources saying that it's official just that it's used like many other languages. We have talked about this many times in the past.... and is the reason why the parameter is taken away from the provincial template. Why are we going out of a way to discriminate against Inuktitut? Moxy🍁 12:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

What nonsense is this? There is a Mik'maw name for this island in Mi'kma'ki which is used widely by the government of this island. We don't have a substantial Inuit population and this island is not part of the traditional territory of the Inuit. Can you please avoid these forumy digressions and self-revert already? Simonm223 (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Please see previous talks. I see the other ones been reverted as well I'll bring a wider talk later on. Talk about undo Jesus. Moxy🍁 13:05, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Very upsetting to see soft colonialism happening. We should not be promoting that the government is pro indigenous when it's not. Indigenous people are fighting hard to get this recognized and giving the government an out by soft recognition is simply unacceptable. Moxy🍁 13:14, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

There goes accountability. Moxy🍁 13:25, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

What the hell are you talking about, Moxy? The section of the infobox is for notable alternate names for a place, which Epekwitk provably is for Prince Edward Island. I don't know why you think that colonial government recognition of Indigenous place names is "soft recognition" nor why you think that purging the mention of the Mi'kmaq name from the page is working towards recognition, but Wikipedia is not the place to right great wrongs. If you want to complain about the PEI government recognizing the name, you can email Zack Bell, the Minister of Fisheries, Tourism, Culture, and Sport, at Template:Nospam. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:38, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I just looked into this, and my assessment is that it doesn't seem like the government of Prince Edward Island has actually officially recognized this name, in that it's not enshrined in legislation. References to the name are mostly in the context of the government reporting "this is what the Mi'kmaq refer to the island as". In that respect, taking the emotion out of it, there could be an argument that having this in the infobox is undue weight, and having so many names does eventually get to be clutter. Can anyone come up with either a source proving that this is an official, legally recognized name, or an academic publication discussing it? In any case, there should absolutely be a section about the name under Etymology. Cheers, MediaKyle (talk) 13:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

There is literally a government sign when you enter PEI via the Confederation Bridge that welcome you to PEI under three languages: English, French and Mi'kmaw. Neither French nor Mi'kmaw are official government languages for PEI but it's pretty obvious that the historical and contemporary cultural significance of Acadians and Mi'kmaw people is being treated differently from other languages in official government material. Simonm223 (talk) 13:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I think the real issue at hand here isn't so much the name itself, but rather the question: what is the inclusion criteria for names in the infobox? In my mind, I always figured it was meant for official names. We're a bilingual country, and so French names are legally recognized. If you take a look at the infoboxes for every other province, I haven't been able to find any other names sourced in the same manner as the one under discussion here. If consensus says that it's for "notable names" in general, not just official names, well that's fine but that might open the door to a lot more names showing up on the infoboxes. I'll look around and see if I can find any guidance. MediaKyle (talk) 14:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

The "official language" requirement is not something that actually existed for this box in any policy or MOS sense. If we're going by COMMONNAME as a basis then those three languages would be appropriate as all three are widely used by local populations within the island. Simonm223 (talk) 15:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

If that's the case, then the conversation is just about settled as far as I can tell. If editors don't like the fact that it's included, the discussion should be related to changing the guidelines around what belongs in provincial infoboxes, not centered on this specific instance. I think I land on the side of it not being worth the trouble based on the information provided. Cheers, MediaKyle (talk) 16:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

For some reason people think the parameter native refers to Indigenous.... it does not. Moxy🍁 22:59, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Well, that may be so, but... Says who? After I saw your message I just looked at Template:Infobox province or territory of Canada... No documentation, the other name and native name parameters aren't even listed. That's why I suggested the real topic at hand here is the infobox, because what's supposed to be included is unclear. Nova Scotia has Scottish Gaelic, Ontario has nothing, etc. MediaKyle (talk) 23:03, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

We remove the parameters a few years ago or so because of endless conflicts like this.see here Moxy🍁 00:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Seems like this has been a problem for a while. The other-name parameter was only ever removed from the documentation though, and there's no parameter explanations in the documentation, so it just ends up being used again. If you want to start a proposal to deprecate the parameter altogether I'd probably support it, I like a clean infobox. MediaKyle (talk) 00:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)