Talk:Physical Graffiti

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The four shots of Queen Elizabeth's coronation (bottom right of each side of each sleeve), and the Lady with an Ermine – are they pictures of W.C.Fields or Buzz Aldrin, or do they touch upon American icons or Hollywood ephemera? – Seriously, the description could be improved/expanded. —Tamfang (talk) 20:00, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

And I can't find Fields anywhere! —Tamfang (talk) 20:03, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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Fifth floor cropped out - wrong

One of the middle floors is cropped out, because the top (fourth on album cover) shows the fifth floor details. B137 (talk) 18:46, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

The new physical graffitti of wind power

Whatever ethereal meaning Led Zeppelin gave to the title, it brings to mind giant wind turbines as a 3-D implementation of white spray paint in scenic areas. Urban blight is spreading everywhere. http://google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=wind+turbines+mountains

Incorrect source?

This "Template:Ex" is sourced to Led Zeppelin: A Celebration By Dave Lewis (Google Books). I've looked through it because I was curious about the statement that Bonham got a "lead songwriting credit on several tracks", as he only gets a shared credit on two tracks from the album sessions, and one shared credit on an outtake. The shared credits are shown in alphabetical order. While looking through for that detail, I note that the album is discussed in two places in the book, but in neither of those places could I see the suggestion that "Bonham was a driving force at the sessions". Either it's in the book and I couldn't find it, or the information comes from a different book. It sometimes happens when editing an article that citations get moved around. User:Ritchie333, you are the main contributor, and User:FunkMonk, you checked it over for the GA - have I missed the place in Lewis' book where it is mentioned, or should there be a different book cited as the source? SilkTork (talk) 14:06, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Ooh, quite a while ago, I'm not sure. But Ritchie would know. FunkMonk (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Ah. Found it. I was looking in the wrong place. "Template:Ex". SilkTork (talk) 14:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Release date

The 24 February release date seems very dubious for the US. There are no mentions of in Billboard dated 1 March 1975 https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Billboard/70s/1975/Billboard%201975-03-01.pdf There is an advertisement for it in the 8 March issue and a review https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Billboard/70s/1975/Billboard%201975-03-08.pdf It finally charts for the first time in the week ending the 15th https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Billboard/70s/1975/Billboard%201975-03-15.pdf Snig27 (talk) 11:29, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

The album debuted on the Billboard Top LPs & Tape chart on March 15, for which the sales tracking week ended March 2. That implies it was released the week of February 23 – March 1.

In a 2015 discussion regarding the release date of The Dark Side of the Moon, Template:U mentioned that the Billboard 200 was done based off of the sales tracked two weeks before (e.g., "The album debuted on the Billboard 200 chart March 17, 1973 for which the sales tracking week ended March 4Template:Nbsp...") As I mentioned in a discussion regarding the release date of Aftermath, I have not been able to independently verify that this was the methodology, as I have not found any books which extensively discuss the history of Billboard chart compiling, but it lines up when comparing albums whose release we know with certainty – typically that is Beatles stuff, like Yesterday & Today, which I mention in the Aftermath thread. Tkbrett (✉) 11:48, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

There is more evidence 24 Feb is possibly wrong.

Cashbox says on the week ending 22 Feb that you can expect it in two to three weeks: https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Cash-Box/70s/1975/CB-1975-02-22.pdf

There is no mention whatsoever of this album in Cashbox dated 1 March, none - the week of release apparently https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Cash-Box/70s/1975/CB-1975-03-01.pdf

However in their issue of week ended 8 March they say that it had arrived in their office during the week https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Cash-Box/70s/1975/CB-1975-03-08.pdf

https://www.ledzeppelin.com/event/february-24-1975 says 24 Feb but then shows a mock paper that has a date of 2 March.

https://www.ledzeppelin.com/event/march-5-1975 has Danny Goldberg announcing that it was certified gold from sales on the day of ship. RIAA says the day it was certifid was actually the 6th https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&se=Led+zeppelin+#search_section One doubts they would wait 9 days to announce that. Maybe, but unlikely.

In the UK it charted on 15 March https://www.officialcharts.com/search/albums/physical%20graffiti/ There are no mentions of it at all in Record Mirror until that week. None. A new LZ album would garner some mention in the UK's biggest pop mag.

Chart lag in the UK based on a credible date. Sgt Pepper, released 26 May, charted 3 June https://www.officialcharts.com/search/albums/sgt-pepper's-lonely-hearts-club-band/ so a week after release. It was that in 1967 and is still that. Is there any evidence it was delayed until after US release in the UK? I've never seen any.

Surely it's not credible that Billboard and Cashbox would ignore a record like this in their issues created on the very week Wiki currently claims but that's what a release date of 24 would have us believe. I do understand that there was a lag in the 60s but have always understood that was tightened in the 70s as albums mattered more.

What seems to have happened is it was scheduled and was pushed back. That 22 Feb Cashbox says:

Eric Clapton's forthcoming LP which Atlantic is hoping to get ready for March release will be titled "There's One In Every Crowd." Don't be surprised to find the release date getting pushed back a month. Speaking of which, Led Zeppelin's "Physical Graffiti" is ready cover -wise, but is being re -mastered. Expect it in two or three weeks

I guess we await further evidence but there seems to a lot that says early March. Snig27 (talk) 15:43, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

You are incorrect about Sgt. Pepper. For one, how the UK Official Chart (then Record Retailer) compiled its data has nothing to do with Billboard. Second, Sgt. Pepper debuted on the Billboard Top LPs chart on June 24, for which the sales tracking week ended June 11. The album came out in the US nine days earlier, on June 2, or twenty-three days before its chart debut in the US. Tkbrett (✉) 15:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)