Talk:Parson Russell Terrier

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There eventually ought to be a separate article for each of the (fairly new) distinguishing varieties of these dogs. At the moment, however, the JRT article discusses all of them and their differences, so a redirect seems appropriate. Elf 17:05, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Which Came First? (The Parson or the Jack)

Does anyone know for certain whether the UK's recognition of the Parson Russell or the ANKC's recognition of the Jack that came first? All my books predate recognition. Quill 07:27, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Neither The Jack Russell Terrier Club of Great Britain was established in 1974. http://jackrussellgb.co.uk/club_info/history_aims.htm

The Jack Russell Terrier Club of America was established in 1976. http://www.terrier.com/jrtca/jrtca.php3

The AKC/UKC recognized the JRT in 1992.

I'd tend to look to the breed organizations for definitions, rather than to the all-breed registries. --jdege 18:14, 2004 Nov 30 (UTC)

Picture is ridiculous

If they are going through great enough pains to insist the Jack Russell Terrier and the PArson are distinct breeds, at LEAST use different pictures on their pages! Christ. Youaredj 02:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

There's been discussion of this on the Jack Russell Terrier page. --jdege 13:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

A Parson could be, if it were a good working type, be registered as a Jack. The breed book for Jacks is open. Wouldn't THAt frost some AKC pumpkins. Will in New Haven —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.79.173.135 (talk) 20:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

The JRTCA studbook is open to any dog that meets the breed standard other than a dog descended from an AKC-registered Parson born after 1997. Or, at least, that used to be the rule and if it's been changed, I missed the announcement. (I don't read "True Grit" as closely as I used to.)

--jdege (talk) 01:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

It is true that a dog registered as a "Parson, or descendant from a Parson can never be registered with the JRTCA. This organization goes so far as to refuse membership to any individual who registers thier Russells with an All Breed Kennel Club. Please do not provide information unless you KNOW for sure it is correct, i.e. you are a member of the JRTCA as it can be misleading to those who are trying to educate themselves about this breed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.47.246.99 (talk) 01:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

External links

I've recently reverted the addition of a couple of external links to this article. Please see WP:ELYES for information on suitable links to add, noting that if it is a reliable source then the information contained should be brought into the article rather than linked to externally. Miyagawa (talk) 22:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Claim that PRTs are adapted to show, not work, seems unfounded.

The wiki article states:

"However, it is unusual for dogs of this breed to be involved in work, such as fox hunting, typical of a small white terrier, as they are more adapted to the show bench.[22]".

The linked source does not say anything to this effect. The last part also goes against most of the information I've read regarding the breed, which is basically that the Parson Russell breed conforms to stricter physical standards that the Jack Russell type is not defined by. Coming from the same stock and bred for the same purposes, especially considering the newness of the Parson Russell as an AKC breed, I don't understand where there claim that "they are more adapted to the show bench" came from. My understanding is that the PRT breed, being developed from the JRT, is suitable for work. 66.249.83.224 (talk) 06:40, 19 November 2014 (UTC)NSI

The statement is rubbish. I know a large number of Parson Russells (including our own) that are used for hunting especially badgers and raccoon dogs, and many breeders breed them specifically for that purpose rather than for show. The Parson Russell is one of the breeds accepted in ground tests (burrow hunting tests) while the short-legged Jack Russel (which was originally bred as a rat catcher) is not. Also, I am not aware of a rule disqualifying rough coats -- many of the current champions are rough and all three types may be born in the same litter.--Death Bredon (talk) 22:20, 6 February 2015 (UTC) I might add that the Parson Russell terrier was NOT developed from what is currently known as the "Jack Russell terrier" in Europe, i.e., the short-legged type. The latter was developed independently in Australia to catch rats particularly in stables while the Parson Russell is descended from the type developed by John Russell for fox hunting, being long-legged in order to be able to run with the pack and then flush the fox when it went to ground.--Death Bredon (talk) 21:20, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

The issue is one of size and how the Parson Russell Terrier's conformation standard is focused on a larger sized terrier. JRT"s are 10-15 with under 12 dogs being generally more desirable for actual working dogs. This is the reason why JRT clubs resisted the inclusion of the JRT into the AKC and why the AKC's inclusion didn't bring along the JRT name in its registry. Brsinai (talk) 13:14, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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No it not named after the Rev Jack Russell

It's not named after reviewing Jack Russell,but the Rev John Russell. 82.132.233.174 (talk) 15:51, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Like black people

Please could someone who is more capable than I, examine and rectify this passage. Why would these dogs be loyal “like black people”? Is this an error or someone being offensive? I have just donated funds to support Wikipedia but I do not want to support such inflammatory language. 134.19.196.138 (talk) 20:06, 28 August 2022 (UTC)