Talk:Ojos del Salado

Is this a reliable source?

This group of mountaineers has a museum and stuff but I don't know anything about them. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:00, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Just undertook a major expansion

Based on a more comprehensive survey of sources. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:01, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Meaning

In the article the real meaning of Ojos del salado isn't mentioned which means "eyes of the salty one" in Spanish. Aminabzz (talk) 13:06, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but place names are not always literal; false friends are pretty common. I'd want a source that explicitly connects the name Ojos de Salado to a meaning. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

This is not an example of a false friend. As the article you have mentioned states, a false friend is two words in two languages that look like each other in the aspect of letters but have different meanings.

But ojos and eyes don't look like each other.

Also, there isn't a meaning for the mountain's name in English to call it a false friend. In a false friend the words should have meanings in both languages.

So since the mountain's name doesn't have an English meaning it's pretty safe to translate the Spanish name to English.

Also, you can search the web for the meaning. I've done it and found some sources. Aminabzz (talk) 21:41, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

If the concept of a false friend was limited to different languages, you might have a point. But just as "Monti Rossi" at Mount Etna literally means "red mountain" but the actual etymology (via a dialect) is "mountain of ruin", we can't guarantee that "Ojos del Salado" the placename means the same thing as "Ojos del Salado" the Spanish sentence. I want a source that explicitly discusses the etymology. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Disagreement between about the Polish climbers

Template:BccWondering if we need an explanation in text for this edit, in case sources disagree. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:50, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't have access to the latter source. Does it claim the ascent was made by all members? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:36, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

This source says Template:Tq Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:48, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Would be good to check Wojsznis. Polish source states that only two climbers went to the top. Template:Tq In fact the Polish source strongly implies the others went eslewhere at the same time: Template:Tq. Note the dates. It is unlikely Paryski would climb both mountains on the same day... PS. Cited source is Ostrowski 1984. PPS. Having translated the German quotation, it does not imply they all climbed each mountain, but that the expedition did. Polish text goes into more details and clarifies that they worked in two 2-men teams, and sometimes each team climbed a different mountain. I hope that makes it clear that the German text was initially used incorrectly (to make a claim that is not clearly supported by it wording). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:53, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Probably best to remove the German reference, then, which I have done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Source on research

Dunno if it's worth a mention: This source about how research in the region is almost entirely under foreign leadership. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:36, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Which lake?

This book talks about 100m wide lake at 6390m elevation. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Pre-FAC review

Jo-Jo Eumerus - as per your request on my user talk page, I'll give this a pre-FAC look. Apologies if any of these comments don't make much sense; I'm trying to split my attention between this article and the Kansas City Chiefs game on TV

• "Topo map Highest mountain: Highest Mountain in Chile" - is this the intended infobox code, because it does not seem right to me
• "Waterbodies found at 6,600 metres (21,700 ft) elevation are the highest lakes of the world; if considered lakes they may be the highest lakes in the world." - I think this needs rephrased - it is fairly convoluted with the first part essentially stating that the waterbodies are the highest lakes, but the second part says that if these waterbodies were to be classified as lakes they would be the highest lakes in the world
• "the mountain has extremely dry conditions, which prevent the formation of glaciers" - but we do note that there are small, sheltered or isolated glaciers. So maybe rephrase to "which prevent the formation of widespread glaciers" or "substantial glaciers" or something like that?
• Isolation is only present in the infobox; should be mentioned in the body as well
• 13 see also links seems a little excessive; I would recommend trimming these a bit before an FAC
• "BAKER, P. E.; GONZALEZ-FERRAN, O.; REX, D. C." - this shouldn't be in all-caps

This is in good shape otherwise. Hog Farm _Talk 22:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

1. REDIRECT Template:Reply to

Template:Redirect category shell, thanks. Only other article that comes to mind is Mount Hudson, and only for a POV-balance evaluation (how much space to assign to each eruption) Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:36, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

26 million years

With reference to

1. REDIRECT Template:Reply to

Template:Redirect category shell's edit, onset dates for volcanism can vary drastically depending on what all is considered to be part of the volcano. Now, that source seems to assume that Mpodozis was talking about Ojos del Salado rather than the region, so it's probably misinterpreting. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

"Ojo"

With reference to this edit, I am not sure that my version of the Alpenverein source supports this addition. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm travelling in South America just now so can't check my AlpenVerein map, but looking at the Argentina IGN 1:100,000 map (via Peakbagger.com) the name Ojo de las Lozas appears there. I've been there and can confirm it's a river source. I've got a screenshot of this, but not sure how to show you that thru the talk pages. Maybe we should change the reference to Argentina IGN maps?

Also known to me is the Ojo de Pillahuasi, nearer to Bonete, and the Ojo de San Pedro in Chile. All are river sources. Mountainman7546 (talk) 15:55, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

From the way you describe the sources, they merely mention "Ojo" w/o explaining what it means. We can't use sources using a term without explaining what it means, to source text explaining what it means. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

New external link

I am a bit iffy on this addition by Trekker24, while it's pertinent it seems to be more a tourguide kind of information than a Wikipedia article kind of information. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:24, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello Jo-Jo Eumerus, thanks for comenting my addition, ChileMontaña is an adventure travel company, the linked post is about preparing for climbs to this mountain and similar mountains in the region, the text is writen by one of our guides based on cientific and empirical information, the aim of the text is to provide information and help. Trekker24 (talk) 18:03, 16 June 2025 (UTC)