Talk:Ocimum tenuiflorum
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Hello Template:Ping This is not medical information Special:Diff/1151035883. I added that so I'm quite certain, quite certain that Chen is a SECONDARY and quite certain that biosynthesis is relevant to the article. Additionally Special:Diff/1151039850 are RS, including Yamani which is cited by Mahfooz. Publication by Frontiers doesn't make a source unreliable. Invasive Spices (talk) 20:02, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- The genome content and source removed was this with the farcical title phrase, "...genes behind its strong medicinal properties" which are then addressed numerous times in the article. Tulsi has no scientifically confirmed medicinal properties. See WP:MEDRS, which represents what the medical community would conclude.
- Concerning my removal of the chemistry edit, Frontiers media are mentioned on the first page of WP:CITEWATCH - we should provide more reliable sources than Frontiers, especially when biological or medical effects are implied, as those two Frontiers sources falsely state from in vitro studies only. Zefr (talk) 22:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- Your personal opinions do not withstand WP:RS or WP:MEDRS. WP:CITEWATCH is not a list of sources to be removed. If it were a bot would do so automatically. Invasive Spices (talk) 22:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Unreliable sources for phytochemical contents
This revert was justified because a) Molecules is a MDPI journal suspected of predatory publishing - see disclaimer on WP:CITEWATCH #1, and b) the Nepalese source in CPB has a low impact factor (1.9), i.e., it does not have sufficient publishing history or peer review to be trusted. Zefr (talk) 22:36, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- MDPI is no longer included on Beall's list of predatory journals. Additionally, a recent article alleging that MDPI is predatory has been retracted. See the link below:
- https://retractionwatch.com/2023/05/08/article-that-assessed-mdpi-journals-as-predatory-retracted-and-replaced/
- While i understand the concern about a low impact factor journal, three things should be noted. First, this particular article has been cited 42 times according to google scholar. That alone is a good indication that experts in the field (natural products chemistry) respect that particular article. Second, many articles published in high impact journals have later been retracted, so impact factor is hardly a good measuring stick for publication quality. Third, these molecules have been reported by multiple studies (citations available in the edit history). It is highly unlikely that multiple teams of researchers across the world all made the same mistake in their analysis. There is even an additional citation to support the existence of tulsinols:
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7448914/ Jeremyseidel (talk) 23:50, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- Noticed this on the watchlist before checking out for the day. Jeremyseidel, you should not be adding edits that cite your own publications. It is a form of WP:COI. Otherwise, the WP:ONUS is on you to get consensus to include this content. Acceptance of MDPI has been waxing and waning a bit in recent years for some, but at least when you get into subjects that touch about medical areas, we generally require secondary WP:MEDRS sources, not primary studies like your own. My userpage gives some guidance for scientist editors, but the main thing right now is not to edit war your content in. KoA (talk) 01:59, 8 August 2023 (UTC)