Talk:Noodle
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== Pasta ==
About Italy and chronologically speaking, I let you know that: 1) Tools to make pasta can be seen in the Etruscan tomb of Cerveteri (IV century BCE) and pillars of Grotta Bella (III c. BCE). 2) Pasta is an Italian term that comes from ancient Latin 'pasta, pastae', meaning kneaded flour, that's a food consisting of water and flour and used to thicken soups. 3) Roman Quintus Horatius Flaccus claimed that pasta was a daily meal (I century BCE). 4) Between Ist century BCE and Ist century AD, Roman Marcus Gavius Apicius wrote some recipes about pasta (eg. Patina Quotidiana), but his writings were popularized only much later, during the IV-V century AD.
sources: (1) S.Grasso, Gli Etruschi: tra cultura e cucina, Archeo Flavors Ligh House, 2014 (2) L. Castiglioni, S. Mariotti, Vocabolario della lingua latina, Loescher, Editore Torino, 1966-1986. (3) S.Serventi, F.Sabban, La pasta, Edizioni Laterza, 2004. (4) F.M. Amato, La cucina di Roma antica, Newton Compton Editori, 2007. Jack2008 (talk) 14:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- File:X mark.svg Not done. Add where? All that's here is a disconnected list of factoids, with no indication how they would fit into the article. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:09, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Use in America
The article is completely missing any reference to noodles being consumed in America. I understand that the article only included historical development, and there probably has been little historical development of noodles in America. However, one of the most populous countries in the world, consumes noodles in vast quantities, and that deserves mention. As does Canada, (and I don't know where else). I suspect Australia does as well. I also suspect that although the forms of German, Italian, or Chinese noodles have generally been superficially maintained in America, I'm sure the manufacturing processes of noodles on a commercial basis altered the American noodle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.17.29.40 (talk) 23:44, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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Spätzle are not bavarian
Spätzle are in fact not bavarian or explicitly from Baden-Württemberg, they are rather a Swabian type of noodle. Swabia being a region as large part of Baden-Württemberg and a small region in Bavaria. So I would propose just writing that they are Swabian noodles. SpaetzleConnaisseur (talk) 22:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Origin: Source 7 does NOT support the claims it makes. It is a false source.
"The general consensus among food historians is that pasta originated somewhere in the Mediterranean region [7]" is what the article says.
The source is a paper titled:
CAN NOODLES BE MADE FROM MILLET? AN EXPERIMENTAL INVESTIGATION OF NOODLE MANUFACTURE TOGETHER WITH STARCH GRAIN ANALYSES
The text at best claims that noodles cannot be made by stretching millet repeatedly.
This is no way is any evidence that pasta came from the Mediterranean. It does not say so. There are many arguments needed before such a broad claim. 71.125.63.103 (talk) 00:39, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- You seem to be looking at the wrong source. This citation points to a National Geographic article which does say, "the dish probably took hold in Italy as a result of extensive Mediterranean trading in the Middle Ages." Dan Bloch (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2025 (UTC)