Talk:Nihil

Meaning/Hatnote

Nihil means nothing in latin, should we fit that in here?

Yes, nihil is important as a word in Latin- it's the root word of Nihilism, which was an influential existentionalist idea made popular by the work of men like Friedrich Nietzsche.

I have to question adding a hatnote pointing to nothing, or a hatnote defining "nihil" at all. I don't think the hatnote is necessary (really, who searches Wikipedia for "Nihil" expecting to find a definition? That's the job of Wiktionary). But rather than just reflexively reverting the edit adding it, I'll bring it up here. Is there support for keeping that hatnote? Is there support for some sort of definition in this article?

A suggestion if there is support for the definition: This page could be disambiguated to Nihil (KMFDM album) (which would remove the need for the Impaled Nazarene hatnote), and the page Nihil could become a disambiguation page (Nihil is a Latin word meaning "nothing". You may also be looking for: [these two albums]).

Thoughts? MrMoustacheMM (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

more nihil

apparantly, there's a french band called nihil (who are said to be opening for TOOL in their june 28th, 2006 show in Paris: www.nihilband.com), as well as an american band (the american band appears on www.Allmusic.com) from Arizona. might wanna create a disambiguation page for it... 80.179.37.23 16:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Ultra used in SFII

Dunno if it's important enough to mention but the song 'Ultra' was used in the American soundtrack/dub of the Street Fighter II movie for the _very_ violent scene where Vega tries to kill Chun-li in her apartment (the japanese version has a completely different soundtrack and the scene in question was badly cut in the American version making it seem odd that Chun-Li nearly dies - in the Jap version Vega cuts her up pretty good) Seek100 22:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Anyone else think Nihil is KMFDM's best album? I'm sure some source could be found claiming that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.236.214 (talk) 21:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Brute! Cover

For this dif, I'm assuming Opium is the other album? MrMoustacheMM (talk) 01:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Think it should be mentioned, or cited somehow? 206.180.38.20 (talk) 17:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, a mention (and wikilink) seem reasonable. The art is credited in the booklet, which should be citation enough. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 07:12, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

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Bill Rieflin

"drummer Bill Rieflin, the latter of whom was working with KMFDM for the first time" – He was on "Godlike (Original Chicago Wax Trax version)" from Naive. I understand that he worked with KMFDM in a more collaborative way on Nihil, instead of just providing hi-hat, so is there a better way to word this? MrMoustacheMM (talk) 03:18, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh dang, I forgot about that. I'll just put it back the way it was, since he didn't really do any writing until Symbols anyway. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 03:22, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain ^t/c 00:49, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

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• Nihil → Nihil (KMDFM album)Nihil (KMDFM album)
• Nihil (disambiguation) → NihilNihil

– No primary topic exists. Although the use of nihil as a concept for the embodiment of nothingness as in Google Book hits for "nihil is" is a pretty obscure area of philosophy, an album by an industrial metal group is also pretty obscure, in print sources at least. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:00, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

• There is only one article on Wikipedia about "Nihil", the KMFDM album. That would make it the primary topic. The dab page has no other links for just "Nihil" or something that could be reasonably expected to be searched for by only typing in "Nihil". If the Impaled Nazarene album or the invisible planet from Beyond the Spectrum were notable enough to have articles, you might have a point here, but neither are notable, and if someone does come to the KMFDM album looking for the IN album or the planet, they have a handy hatnote there to help them find what they're looking for. But no one would search for the law terms as just "Nihil", nor the comic book character or the concepts "Nihilism" and "Nihilist". MrMoustacheMM (talk) 19:10, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose, essentially per MrMoustacheMM. There is no other notable article subject with this title. Checking page views, we see this article gets about 5000 hits per quarter, while the disambiguation page is getting less than 300 per quarter. In other words, when people come to this article, they're finding what they're looking for. We don't need to shuffle things around and add an extra step for readers. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 19:19, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Readers will still find the album, the cover shows up browsing Wikipedia on Iphone in search, and adding "(album)" to the top RH search box is not going to make it less clear that this is an album. That aside WP:PRIMARYTOPIC states:

Does this album pass either of these tests? In ictu oculi (talk) 01:35, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

There is no other article topic with this title, so I think it passes based on that. Anyone searching for anything else will already see that name (Nihil obstat, Nihilism, etc) as an option in the search drop down. Essentially, everything else is already disambiguated. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 13:29, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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