Talk:National Assembly (South Korea)

Restoring the title to the "National Assembly of South Korea"

The current title "National Assembly (South Korea)" is awkward - it means that the name of the article can never be linked without being piped. Restoring "National Assembly of South Korea" addresses this problem. The article was moved last September without discussion, but with the explanation "proper term per constitution". I really doubt that the South Korean constitution refers to the assembly as "National Assembly (South Korea)", especially since South Korea calls itself "Republic of Korea". Finally, WP:TITLE says: "the ideal article title resembles titles for similar articles, precisely identifies the subject, and is short, natural, and recognizable." "National Assembly of South Korea" covers all of these principles. Ground Zero | t 15:41, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

• As there were no objections, I have made the move. Ground Zero | t 03:39, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Requested move 16 October 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. Paradoxially, a mass RM of National Assembly (country)" to National Assembly of Country" may be the best way forward. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 23:29, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

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• National Assembly (South Korea) → South Korean National AssemblySouth Korean National Assembly National Assembly of South KoreaNational Assembly of South Korea
• List of members of the National Assembly (South Korea), 2012–2016 → List of members of the South Korean National Assembly, 2012–2016List of members of the South Korean National Assembly, 2012–2016 List of members of the National Assembly of South Korea, 2012–2016List of members of the National Assembly of South Korea, 2012–2016
• List of members of the National Assembly (South Korea), 2016–present → List of members of the South Korean National Assembly, 2016–presentList of members of the South Korean National Assembly, 2016–present List of members of the National Assembly of South Korea, 2016–presentList of members of the National Assembly of South Korea, 2016–present

– Better to use natural disambiguation instead of awkward parenthesis. Google Books, Google News. PC78 (talk) 23:09, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose: The proposed form, using "South Korean" as an adjective, is clearly not the correct proper name of the institution. —BarrelProof (talk) 14:08, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  • National Assembly of South Korea? PC78 (talk) 14:20, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
    • That is better. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:22, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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That's not an argument, just a jumble of words to which there are other counter examples. PC78 (talk) 15:04, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

• I've refactored this request per comments above by Template:Ul. PC78 (talk) 15:51, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
• Support per WP:NATURAL; all those titles sound contrived, particularly the lists. Indeed, the situation in Category:National legislatures is haphazard, and a mass RM or RfC would be in order. No such user (talk) 11:33, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
  • I'd also be happy to drop "List of..." from the titles of those list articles. I know WP:LISTNAME calls for it, but blindly following that guideline can result in some unnecessarily convoluted titles. PC78 (talk) 13:36, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
    • I'm indifferent as to inclusion of "List of", but Members of the National Assembly (South Korea), 2012–2016 is awkward in either case. No such user (talk) 21:25, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
• Comment. "List of" is the normal for these articles, so dropping it is certainly against standard naming conventions. Convoluted or not, for consistency reasons there's no reason for these articles to be an exception. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:56, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
  • I think that would be a pretty good reason for any article not to follow the guideline. But that was just an observation on my part, it's not necessarily part of the move request. PC78 (talk) 12:47, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

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Explanation needed

Why when the Democratic Party of Korea has a majority of the seats in the National Assembly is it not in government but the People Power Party who have a minority are running a minority government according to what is stated in the infobox? According to 2020 South Korean legislative election the Democratic Party of Korea won the last legislative election in a landslide victory and still retain a majority of seats. So why aren't they running the government? Is it because Yoon Suk-yeol won the 2022 South Korean presidential election as part of the People Power Party and so the party who run the presidency then is then given the right to govern in the legislature? Or is there another explanation like the Democratic Party of Korea gave up its role in government or that what is stated in the infobox is a mistake? It would be very helpful if this could be explained, especially in this article itself. Helper201 (talk) 15:56, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Bump, this would be very helpful and remains relevant. I have also been unable to find an explanation across other politics of South Korea wiki pages Jacsam2 (talk) 10:59, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

In Korea, the party who holds the presidency is considered "in government" and all other parties are then considered "in opposition". This is from the words "여당" and "야당". The number of seats is irrelevant. This does not affect the number designation a party is given for elections. -boldblazer 23:14, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

boldblazer please add this explanation to the page while also including a reliable source as a citation that supports your claim. Helper201 (talk) 23:42, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Do you really need to explain that a president controls the government in a presidential republic on a page about the legislature? boldblazer 23:56, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

I think a brief, sourced explanation would be beneficial to readers, so yes. Helper201 (talk) 20:05, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, since generally even in a Presidential Republic the party of the President does not determine the composition of the government; SK should, like the United States, be considered to have a Divided Government, with the Democratic Party being the government in terms of the legislature, but with a President from the PPP. IkonicDeath (talk) 12:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC)