Talk:Murad II

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Ghazi

Template:Ping what's your problem with the title Ghazi? There is an entire book (Ghazavatname) about him. If you mean succession, learn the difference. Beshogur (talk) 18:52, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

It is not a substantive title. The title parameter is for substantive titles. See Template:Infobox royalty/doc. Surtsicna (talk) 18:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

2.5 million ducats

This text: “ In 1432, the traveller Bertrandon de la Broquière noted that Ottoman annual revenue had increased to 2,500,000 ducats.”

  1. Does not belong in the lede as it is not summarizing anything from the article body
  2. Is based on a source from 1972
  3. Is meaningless without context. There was some context there but it was along the lines of “with that money he could’ve conquered all of Europe if he had only wanted” which was obviously false and sketchy
  4. Doesn’t inform the reader of much of anything. Who’s gonna know how much 2.5 million ducats was worth? How did it compare to the treasuries of other kings, sultans, rulers? It’s just a claim someone found and felt compelled to spam into Wikipedia.

Volunteer Marek 15:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

That whole paragraph is from one source. Template:Tq yeah my apologises that Halil Inalcik couldn't write this in 2024, if it would make much difference. Template:Tq I removed that statement, you're right. Template:Tq how so? It says Template:Tq and it gives about its economy. Maybe reader can click ducat article to read more? Template:Tq why should we talk on Murad II article about other rulers? this book is about Ottoman Empire, doesn't talk about other rulers. Also claim? It's a secondary source based on primary source from that period, which makes it WP:RS and stop calling calling reliable sourced contribution spam. Beshogur (talk) 15:36, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also moved below, you might be right about lead. Beshogur (talk) 15:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Alright, as long as it’s not in the lede, I’m good with it. Thank you. Volunteer Marek 17:09, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Siege of Smederevo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smederevo_Fortress#:~:text=In%20early%20June,%5B10%5D Kartal1071 (talk) 21:07, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply