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Some other misnomers

Here are some other misnomers that should be included as examples:

• American “Indian”
• “planetary” nebula
• “rare earth” element
• “tidal” wave

The draft has already created

I create a list of misnomers, including graph in pencils is not actually created with graph and buckwheat is not closely related to wheat. Can anybody add more items in this list? 2001:448A:11A1:1A7E:6DA7:58EA:C3:B57E (talk) 06:53, 15 September 2023 (UTC) talik20011 15 eptber thislit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.119.233.214 (talk) 20:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

French Fries

Why aren't French fries listed? GamerKlim9716 (talk) 01:24, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Because this is not a list article. It only needs a few good examples. And there is a consensus to not add new examples without consensus. Read the talk page archives. Sundayclose (talk) 14:30, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Pennsylvania Dutch reversion

This article seems to have an unusually high bar for inclusion criteria for being unprotected. I did not intend to violate consensus or edit disruptively, and I will not unproductively reverse your reversion. I was just under the impression that the example I listed, "Pennsylvania Dutch", was a particularly noteworthy entry that belonged on this list of examples, and just added it. I mean no harm. I have simply just begun the cycle. Bernardgeorgeh (talk) 17:43, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping This is the edit windows you opened when you made your edit. Please explain why you ignored the internal comment that appears TWICE and in ALL CAPS, and then make the case that you "did not intend to violate consensus". Which part of "DO NOT ADD NEW ITEMS" do you not understand? If you want to change the "unusually high bar for inclusion", the appropriate way to do that on Wikipedia is by seeking a new consensus, not by unilaterally deciding that your preferences are more important than consensus. Sundayclose (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

In this case, I am seeking a new consensus. The amount of editors who have added examples and had their edits reverted indicates that the consensus on the number (and scope) of entries is far from unanimous. The invisible comments I ignored seem to be used inappropriately. The wording of the comments repeatedly telling editors not to add new examples without consensus can discourage editors from contributing to this article at all. Now seems as opportune a time as ever to reassess the current consensus to come and a new one. Bernardgeorgeh (talk) 18:51, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Consensus does not have to be unanimous. Please read WP:CON. Also note that consensus is determined by discussion on this talk page, not by the number of reverts in the edit history. I oppose a new consensus for the same reason that the current consensus was established: This is not a list article and the number of examples must be limited. Otherwise it attracts bloat. For comparison, see List of common misconceptions. Even that list article has strict criteria for inclusion since over the years it became bloated with everyone's favorite idea of what a "common" misconception is. If anyone wants a list article for misnomers, feel free to write it. Thanks for following the proper procedure for establishing consensus. Please wait for others to respond and a clear consensus emerges before adding new examples. Sundayclose (talk) 19:09, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Suburbs of a Metropolis needs clarifying

When the article says "Referring to the suburbs of a metropolis by the name of the biggest city in the metropolis." what is it even trying to say?

The suburbs are part of the metropolis, if I said that someone from Greenwich was a Londoner, or that something in Clayton was in Melbourne, that would be entirely correct. My hand is part of my body.

Is it talking about times when a growing city has eaten a smaller city? Because it's still fine to say that it's now part of the bigger city, it's not a misnomer. London ate a bunch of neighbouring towns, and they're all London now. Crelb (talk) 01:24, 31 May 2025 (UTC)