Talk:Ming dynasty
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How about a new map? :D
I have created a new Ming map, based on previous Ming maps and other maps (see description on Commons) and also the map used on zhwiki. What do you think about using this map in this article?
Note: In this map I differentiate the color of Tibet because the status of Tibet may still be a bit "ambiguous". Cc Template:Ping ▪︎ Fazoffic ( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ) 12:26, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you look at this very page you'll see some recent deliberations on why we have the map we presently do, and why we don't use the Script error: No such module "Lang"., which your map ultimately references. Remsense ‥ 论 12:39, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, only in part. But that immediately creates a distinct problem of WP:SYNTH—it's changing some of what is referenced explicitly to one source to what another source says, in so doing creating a new set of claims that disagrees with what any given source itself says. Remsense ‥ 论 12:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Ming 1415 map
Template:Moved from I believe the uncropped version of the 1415 map shows Ming controlling parts of Sumatra given the color scheme and labelling of Palembang as "Chiu-Chiang", which is the romanization of the Chinese term 舊港 "old port" (jiu gang or jiu xiang in mandarin), short for "舊港宣慰司" or Old Port Pacification Superintendency. This is in accordance with the fact that the Ming established the polity of the Old Port Pacification Superintendency 舊港宣慰司 in 1407 after the battle of Palembang, with it lasting until circa 1440, so Palembang would still be under Ming control in 1415. This paper https://ari.nus.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/wps04_028.pdf confirms that the Ming court had control over this polity. As for the change in colour key, I used a colour picker on the image and one could see it is better just with the naked eye. Jimmyshay (talk) 19:38, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Was this really understood to be "Ming territory", rather than something like a client state? I do not know. In any case, I can understand that it should be visible regardless, so I have re-cropped the map.Remsense ‥ 论 19:41, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's a different colour (more greenish). The 1966 edition uses more obviously contrasting colours. The map uses Chinese names for lots of places, e.g. Hsi-lan (Sri Lanka) and (not shown on this crop) T'ien-t'ang (Mecca). It is not making the claim you assert. Kanguole 21:37, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's what I thought initially! Remsense ‥ 论 21:43, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2025
Script error: No such module "protected edit request". dykes to dikes 2603:8000:B800:4504:E1F9:D39E:B8D7:203A (talk) 06:18, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Might've been an WP:ENGVAR thing, but since our article for it is Levee, changed it to levees Cannolis (talk) 06:33, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- As per wiktionary:dyke#Noun, dyke is marked as a Template:Tq & as per wiktionary:#Alternative_forms, dike is Template:Tq. Why should we change from the British spelling to an American spelling for an article about a Chinese dynasty? Peaceray (talk) 15:12, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
GDP Decrease?
In the sidebar information, where the estimated GDP per capita seems to have a red triangle next to the value. I believe this is an error, since we are referring to past events. 2601:280:5F00:51B0:25DF:B6A6:FAA8:9AC5 (talk) 04:46, 15 May 2025 (UTC)